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Christians: Does Your Religion Have Roots In Astrology?
Teddy Roosevelt:
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----12 Months in a Year... Jesus has 12 disciples
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You can trace a million things to the # 12. You fail to show any significance. If the number 12 is the only thing you are going by, trace Christianity to magnesium (atomic number 12), a clock (12 numbers), flag of Europe (12 stars), human ribs (12 pairs), a foot (12 inches), etc. You can connect anything simply by assigning it a number then holding it to significance.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----12 Months in year... 12 tribes of Israel
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Both the 12 months and 12 tribes predate Jesus. Plus the 12 tribes of Israel aren't even important in Christianity.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----On Dec. 25th the 3 brightest stars align with the brightest star, Sirius, point to direction of the sun... The three Kings, who followed the Nothern Star, to the sun of God
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The date of Christmas is easily traced to paganism.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ---For ancient astrologers in the Northern Hemisphere, the shortest day for the sun is Dec. 22nd, where the sun sets at its lowest point for 3 days, then starts again to rise as daytime hours begin to increase.... Jesus crucified and died for three days and ressurected on the 25th of Dec.
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Where did you get the idea that Jesus was resurrected on the 25 of December? :stupid:
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----In the spring equinox the daytime hours finally overpower and become longer than nighttime hours.... Easter is celebrated as birth of Christ and Christ overpowers the darkness of the devil
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"Easter is celebrated as birth of Christ and Christ overpowers the darkness of the devil" is simply your own interpretation/means of explanation.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----4300 BC to 2150 BC was the astrological age of Taurus the Bull, the age that follows is the age of Aires the Ram.... Moses was said to have lived just after the age of Taurus the Bull and ironically he blows a rams horn and is angry at folks who still worship the calf (bull)
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Aside from being a biblical figure, what does this really have to do with any of the teachings of Christianity.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----1AD marked the beggining of the age of pisces (fish constellation)... Christians put the fish bumpersticker on their cars
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Fish are mentioned throughout the Gospels:
-Jesus multiplies fish and loaves of bread to feed many people. <---I'm sure you can see why people find this significant.
-Jesus told his disciples "I will make you fishers of men".
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----The sun is at the center of the Zodiac... Jesus is at the center of the cross
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Crucifixion was used by the Romans as a form of punishment. The fact that Christ (or thousands of other people who have been crucified) are at the center is irrelevant. Where else on a cross is someone suppose to be put?
Furor Teutonicus:
--- Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on February 08, 2011, 07:58:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----12 Months in a Year... Jesus has 12 disciples
--- End quote ---
You can trace a million things to the # 12. You fail to show any significance. If the number 12 is the only thing you are going by, trace Christianity to magnesium (atomic number 12), a clock (12 numbers), flag of Europe (12 stars), human ribs (12 pairs), a foot (12 inches), etc. You can connect anything simply by assigning it a number then holding it to significance.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----12 Months in year... 12 tribes of Israel
--- End quote ---
Both the 12 months and 12 tribes predate Jesus. Plus the 12 tribes of Israel aren't even important in Christianity.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----On Dec. 25th the 3 brightest stars align with the brightest star, Sirius, point to direction of the sun... The three Kings, who followed the Nothern Star, to the sun of God
--- End quote ---
The date of Christmas is easily traced to paganism.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ---For ancient astrologers in the Northern Hemisphere, the shortest day for the sun is Dec. 22nd, where the sun sets at its lowest point for 3 days, then starts again to rise as daytime hours begin to increase.... Jesus crucified and died for three days and ressurected on the 25th of Dec.
--- End quote ---
Where did you get the idea that Jesus was resurrected on the 25 of December? :stupid:
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----In the spring equinox the daytime hours finally overpower and become longer than nighttime hours.... Easter is celebrated as birth of Christ and Christ overpowers the darkness of the devil
--- End quote ---
"Easter is celebrated as birth of Christ and Christ overpowers the darkness of the devil" is simply your own interpretation/means of explanation.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----4300 BC to 2150 BC was the astrological age of Taurus the Bull, the age that follows is the age of Aires the Ram.... Moses was said to have lived just after the age of Taurus the Bull and ironically he blows a rams horn and is angry at folks who still worship the calf (bull)
--- End quote ---
Aside from being a biblical figure, what does this really have to do with any of the teachings of Christianity.
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----1AD marked the beggining of the age of pisces (fish constellation)... Christians put the fish bumpersticker on their cars
--- End quote ---
Fish are mentioned throughout the Gospels:
-Jesus multiplies fish and loaves of bread to feed many people. <---I'm sure you can see why people find this significant.
-Jesus told his disciples "I will make you fishers of men".
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on February 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM ----The sun is at the center of the Zodiac... Jesus is at the center of the cross
--- End quote ---
Crucifixion was used by the Romans as a form of punishment. The fact that Christ (or thousands of other people who have been crucified) are at the center is irrelevant. Where else on a cross is someone suppose to be put?
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Atleast one sane person here. These 'connections' are completely arbitrary and crude. It's always the same routine. If you want to connect x with y you'll always find some numbers etc that somehow match, you only have to search long enough. Infinite is probably one of those brainiacs who believed in those 2Pac-Resurrection theories.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
Btw...Christianity, just like many other religions are all just plagiarized versions of the Ancient Egyptians religion worshipping the Sun. There are so many religions who's messiahs all fit the same description. Everything from the day they were supposedly born, to their supposed resurrection, etc...etc. All of them are just these particular religions personification of the Sun. Not gonna type up everything here. But there is a reason they are all born on the same day, typically have 12 disciples or followers, the 3 day ressurection, etc. All of those aspects of the storyline are just symbolism for different astronimical events. When you worship Jesus, you are just worshipping the Sun personified.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on February 09, 2011, 11:35:53 AM ---
Btw...Christianity, just like many other religions are all just plagiarized versions of the Ancient Egyptians religion worshipping the Sun. There are so many religions who's messiahs all fit the same description. Everything from the day they were supposedly born, to their supposed resurrection, etc...etc. All of them are just these particular religions personification of the Sun. Not gonna type up everything here. But there is a reason they are all born on the same day, typically have 12 disciples or followers, the 3 day ressurection, etc. All of those aspects of the storyline are just symbolism for different astronimical events. When you worship Jesus, you are just worshipping the Sun personified.
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It doesn't really disprove anything to say it was worshipped the same way before, because if Jesus, God, and the prophecy are real then ancient civilizations would have had prophets telling everyone what was coming, and Kings or men in power could have used prophecy to mold their own religions for the people.
What I mean is if I am a Pharaoh and a man comes to me that can see the future and perform miracles I'd ask him everything about everything and he'd tell me who God is and how he will enter the Earth. Then I'd kill him or jail him and take his story, and proclaim myself a living God, so that no one in Egypt thinks this Messiah is stronger than me, the Pharaoh. It makes more sense than a bunch of Christians getting together in 300 AD assuming that in 1500 years the world will speak a language called English that will have the word for male offspring and the word for that big yellow thing in the sky sound exactly the same, and if we take this old Egyptian religion for that yellow thing apply it to the male offspring of the creator we can control everyone.
If you actually speak to religious leaders with in any religion you'd realize how smart and about their wits they really are. They may not be right, but they're not stupid enough to try and pull that bogus wool over anyone's eyes. Faith existed in a genius like Isaac Newton's mind for a reason, and it wasn't because he wasn't smart enough to accept he was wrong. Men of Faith simply feel something that men with out faith don't. Intelligence has nothing to do with it.
QuietTruth:
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