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Phil Jackson: "Kobe has patterned himself after Michael......he is not michael"
Chamillitary Click:
Did that nigga forget that Kobe played with Shaq? Someone who some consider to be a better player on the all-time list than Kobe? ??? :laugh:
OG Hack Wilson:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 18, 2011, 11:26:57 AM ---Did that jew forget that Kobe played with Shaq? Someone who some consider to be a better player on the all-time list than Kobe? ??? :laugh:
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yep
NIK was calling Shaq the best center of all time at one point....now NIK tries to downplay Shaq as if he ws just along for the ride with Kobe
OG Hack Wilson:
--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on March 18, 2011, 01:39:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on March 17, 2011, 08:03:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on March 17, 2011, 07:55:01 PM ---Futhermore, even if Kobe plays 5 more years, how exactly does he become a BETTER player than MJ? Cuz longevity doesn't = better. If its rings, its Russell. More rings than MJ would not make Kobe best ever.
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LOL..when Kobe was in his physical prime, all the jordan nut huggers argued that kobe was as good as jordan as far as ability, but that he didn't have what it takes to lead his team. now that he's leading his teams to all these titles, the tune has changed...honestly, stfu, YOUR shit is getting pathetic.
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Lol Kobe plays on a stacked team, his teams did nothing after shaq left and before gasol came. You just can't admit it because your a Kobe nut hugger
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Sccit:
So Kobe gets penalized for being part of the greatest 1-2 punch in history? lame argument, dicklickers.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on March 18, 2011, 01:23:12 PM ---So Kobe gets penalized from being part of the greatest 1-2 punch in history? lame argument, dicklickers.
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No but the question lies in how effective that first punch either was or needed to be. Shaq in those years was a mid 80s Mike Tyson uppercut right on the chin. The first punch, the one that sets up the uppercut doesn't have to be dynamite left hook, which Kobe was. A solid left jab will be enough for the other fighter to respect it to leave some opening for the more forceful punch.
The Lakers really lost a step for a couple years when Kobe was trusted into the leader position. He has since more than made up for any criticism, but in the couple years after Shaq left it made me wonder how vital he really was to the 3-peat team. When Gretzky left the Oilers we saw that the punch that set up the hay-maker was a hay maker in itself with Messier, and we saw it right away. When Pippen took over for MJ they were still a hip skip and a jump away from another ring (I'm not sure that even with Jordan they would have won it all that year). When Shaq left they fell to under 500 with Kobe at the helm.
Like I said, Kobe has more than become everything you said he always was, I'm just not so sure he always was. Whether or not Kobe is is as good as Jordan or Magix now is one thing, but I think that 3-peat team is at least a 4peat team with Magic, Larry, or MJ teamed up with Shaq. And you can add current Kobe to that list.
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