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A blog entry from one of my friends from KC who lives in Libya now
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on March 31, 2011, 01:19:29 AM ---libertarianism is more about letting people make decisions and not delegating them to another group of people
you dont have to be pro govt to care about people
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Exactly. You can have health insurance, health care, education, security systems, mail, charity services for the poor, consumer advocate agencies, and so on without the government being involved.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Sami on March 30, 2011, 06:40:18 PM ---Also...hate to double post, but I wouldn't be surprised if your friend just said that because Qaddafi holds Sebha and is monitoring phone traffic and having people killed for saying anything contrary to the approved speech. What he said pretty much matches that.
--- End quote ---
I think if that were the case my friend just wouldn't be saying anything at all. I don't think he'd be wasting a whole day of his time just to make a blog post on a 1970's speed internet service.
Furor Teutonicus:
Well I'm glad my country stayed away from this.
Gaddaffi is a bastard and it would be a blessing if his clan was wiped off the face of the earth, but the western countries can't play world police. In the end, you'll get hated anyway if you involve yourself in these affairs. No matter what you do,you always do it wrong. As soon as you (accidently?) kill some civilians, and you can't avoid that enen with the super-best homing missiles, you get the hate. The first members of the Arabian League were already critisizing when they started to attack Gaddaffis land troops because it allegedly was not covered by the resolution. Let them Muslim states take care of that themselves.
Even if the rebels succeed, it's unclear who takes over. Finally, some asshole who's as bad or worse (if that's is even possible) will take over. We don't even know who is leading the rebels, we don't even know who they support.
Western dominance is over anyway, them Chinese and Russians still tolerate our little adventures, because it weakens us, but they decide world affairs in the future and we'll have to bow down. The sooner we accept that and take care of our own problems, the better.
Matty:
--- Quote from: still not decided on March 31, 2011, 12:47:56 PM ---Well I'm glad my country stayed away from this.
Gaddaffi is a bastard and it would be a blessing if his clan was wiped off the face of the earth, but the western countries can't play world police. In the end, you'll get hated anyway if you involve yourself in these affairs. No matter what you do,you always do it wrong. As soon as you (accidently?) kill some civilians, and you can't avoid that enen with the super-best homing missiles, you get the hate. The first members of the Arabian League were already critisizing when they started to attack Gaddaffis land troops because it allegedly was not covered by the resolution. Let them Muslim states take care of that themselves.
Even if the rebels succeed, it's unclear who takes over. Finally, some asshole who's as bad or worse (if that's is even possible) will take over. We don't even know who is leading the rebels, we don't even know who they support.
Western dominance is over anyway, them Chinese and Russians still tolerate our little adventures, because it weakens us, but they decide world affairs in the future and we'll have to bow down. The sooner we accept that and take care of our own problems, the better.
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real talk, but the western elites aren't losing grip without a struggle. sovereign bankruptcies and in the end, failure of the IMF$ system.
Furor Teutonicus:
There you have it. The rebels are already shouting 'down with the NATO'
Fuck em
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