Author Topic: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David  (Read 1659 times)

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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2011, 08:04:30 AM »
I know Quik wants to branch out and do different sounds but he honestly sucks at that, every time he tries to keep it funky like on Nobody he hits it out of the park, that track sounds like something straight from Rythmalism, 100% prime  Quik and Suga Free, then you listen to Fire and Brimstone and you hear some of the weakest shit ever heard from QUIk
 

I agree with this. One song will be dope as hell you get to the next and your like WTF is this shit?
Sometimes I need reminders why I bother to rap
Then I think back to cats who only father is rap
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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #46 on: April 22, 2011, 10:02:21 AM »
everybody who said that "fire and brimstone" is off beat just literally proved that they have no rythm... lmao @ your life foreal... and lol again becuz it's just that funny
Did you get a remix of it?  Maybe with a 5/13 snare and a 1/9 kick?  That would be tight.  No drum pattern has that fucked up arrangement for a reason.  There is a science to drums and the human ear and body.  Quik tried to switch it up which is fine but it didn't work.  I thought I was going deaf but I played that jam for 5 or 6 hip hop heads an they thought I was joking as that song being an original from Quik.  They were like bullshit that is a stan remix from you tube or something.  You can find NO song in the history of hip hop with that drum rhythm.  99% of hip hop songs have a 5/13 snare with a kick  and hi hats.....not a 5/13 snare with some kids bangin pots and pans at free will in the background.
 

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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2011, 10:05:37 AM »
everybody who said that "fire and brimstone" is off beat just literally proved that they have no rythm... lmao @ your life foreal... and lol again becuz it's just that funny
Did you get a remix of it?  Maybe with a 5/13 snare and a 1/9 kick?  That would be tight.  No drum pattern has that fucked up arrangement for a reason.  There is a science to drums and the human ear and body.  Quik tried to switch it up which is fine but it didn't work.  I thought I was going deaf but I played that jam for 5 or 6 hip hop heads an they thought I was joking as that song being an original from Quik.  They were like bullshit that is a stan remix from you tube or something.  You can find NO song in the history of hip hop with that drum rhythm.  99% of hip hop songs have a 5/13 snare with a kick  and hi hats.....not a 5/13 snare with some kids bangin pots and pans at free will in the background.


son that shit flows just right... your homies just might not like DJ Quik like that or it's their 1st and probably ONLY time listening to it.  You just might not be a fan of the record but that drum pattern is on beat and I can bobb my head with rhythm just fine, in fact I got a little more funk to it than most of the records i hear and bobb my head to
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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2011, 10:12:17 AM »
Fire and Brimstone is one of the best songs on the album, for both production and lyrics. It's a nice change from the same boring drum patterns you hear from other producers.
 

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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2011, 10:54:17 AM »
everybody who said that "fire and brimstone" is off beat just literally proved that they have no rythm... lmao @ your life foreal... and lol again becuz it's just that funny

No no that ain't true... if you snuck that track on at a club the whole crowd would stop dancing and look around saying WTF?!
 

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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2011, 10:59:25 AM »
everybody who said that "fire and brimstone" is off beat just literally proved that they have no rythm... lmao @ your life foreal... and lol again becuz it's just that funny

No no that ain't true... if you snuck that track on at a club the whole crowd would stop dancing and look around saying WTF?!


 :D they probably would but that doesn't mean it's not on beat or a good song... this must be 1 of those tracks where it's subject to opinion (even tho I think it's 1 of the best on tha album)
 

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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2011, 10:59:39 AM »
everybody who said that "fire and brimstone" is off beat just literally proved that they have no rythm... lmao @ your life foreal... and lol again becuz it's just that funny

No no that ain't true... if you snuck that track on at a club the whole crowd would stop dancing and look around saying WTF?!


Well that's because it's not a party track, but the song is completely on beat. I have no idea what you guys are hearing when you say it's off beat. Everyone I've played the song for loves it and none of them had a problem nodding to it.
 

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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2011, 01:20:11 PM »
It's not so much that it's off beat (that's not the right wording for it), it's definitaly on beat but it's just not a traditional rap drum pattern, it's unorthodox. Compare Fire and Brimstone to pretty much every other track that DJ Quik has ever done (or any other rap producer for that matter) and you can tell the difference. There's a reason why he hasn't used this drum pattern before; the drums are not as easy on the ears compared to the typical drum patterns found in most songs. But I do give Quik props for stepping outside the box and pushing the creative side of things, after all Quik is a real artist so it doesn't really surprise me that he would try different things and use a drum pattern that no one else would use. I've never listened to Quik because I've wanted to hear adbstract drums/beats, he's always been real smooth, funky and has had his own signature sound when it comes to his drums, percussion, etc., but "Fire and Brimstone" is different. At the end of the day it's all a matter of opinion and taste and it's cool that some Quik fans like this track as much as they do. Shit, if there's wackos out there that prefer "Malice in Wonderland" over "Doggystyle" then it's all good if some people's favorite track on "The Book of David" is "Fire and Brimstone", it's just not for me and I rather bang the shit out of songs like "Nobody".
"Lyrics aint nothin' if the beat aint crackin' and knees be smackin', that's why the G's keep stackin'" - DJ Quik
 

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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2011, 07:02:04 AM »
i dont get how an album from 99 can sound dated. maybe there were different trends then but how has hip hop gotten any more advanced since then? it was already fully developed at that point and as a whole a lot more musically rich than it is now. IMO rhythm-al-ism is the single greatest musical achievement in hip hop. how can that sound dated? i mean i guess you could be saying quik is always updating and changing with the times which could be a valid complain. i would NEVER complain about quik sounding too 99 though.
 

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Re: DJ Quik took a huge step backwards with The Book of David
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2011, 02:37:52 PM »
I disagree completely. Trauma sounds much more dated than The Book of David. TBOD has its faults but I think it's a lot clearer and fresher sounding than Trauma, BlaQKout and that Fixxers album, all of which sounded forced on quite a few songs, and Quik's beats didn't come off as natural in my opinion. The beats on TBOD sound a lot more like Quik being comfortable in his own style, which is why I think it's his best album in years.


I think that "Ladies & Thugs" was a good idea, but it ended up sounding like a cheap beat with those strings on it.
"Blaqkout", "Cream N Ya Panties" and "The Appeal" (to me the best 3 songs off BlaQKout) don't sound too much different than the beats on TBOD.



fire & brimstone beat is tight .  yall got some funny taste in beats .
and trauma does sound more generic and outdated than book of david ,  book of david sounds like fresh with the beats . but the rhymes are not that great though .  thats were the album kinda fails