Why did Xzibit fall off so bad?

[D-TalkX]

When he started doing that show a lot of street cred was lost and I would think some exec's wouldn't have liked certain things becoming public. It's the same thing with Twitter/FB etc. In music it's music and you can say whatever but no one really knows how you really are. Twitter and FB have hurt a lot of artists sales (and helped) because their true personalities have shown on their comments. So instead of someone purchasing just the music you make they are buying your image as well. When the image can be distorted by public appearances, tv shows, twitter and other personal shit people judge differently.

He became a pop figure instead of the underdog from rags to riches. Happens to most or all rappers.

[Fonkarround]

When he started doing that show a lot of street cred was lost and I would think some exec's wouldn't have liked certain things becoming public. It's the same thing with Twitter/FB etc. In music it's music and you can say whatever but no one really knows how you really are. Twitter and FB have hurt a lot of artists sales (and helped) because their true personalities have shown on their comments. So instead of someone purchasing just the music you make they are buying your image as well. When the image can be distorted by public appearances, tv shows, twitter and other personal shit people judge differently.

He became a pop figure instead of the underdog from rags to riches. Happens to most or all rappers.

Mainstream music was never meant to be just music. Image was pretty often a big part of it.


I dont get why people would hate on X, for that show. He was funny as fuck on it. He didnt lose anything in my eyes for that.

[3rd Coast]

Lets be honest, how was he ever going to match what happened on Restless. You had Dre's backing (which is kind of crazy because Dre never gets projects out) and all that star power.

Well, he tried for sure. "Man Vs. Machine" had Dre as the executive producer and he mixed 7 songs, but only produced 2 of them. "MVM" was a real weak album compared to "Restless" though. I think they should've made "Losin Your Mind" as the first single IMO. I think at that time Xzibit and Snoop Dogg wasn't gettin' along though so they could've not made a video for it. I'm not sure how much the album sold, but i'm sure it didn't sell as much as "Restless" did so i guess it was considered and that's probably why Dr. Dre stopped fuckin' with Xzibit or maybe Jimmy Iovine told him to start workin' with other artists or somethin' like that.

You need to bring back the Dre's vision of Aftermath in early 2000s. He wanted to make a label that drops tons of dope artists with classic albums (according to Dre's interviews).. He signed too many artists, and it just fell off. Dre didnt have time for X.
 
Restless was a dope classic west coast record, thats why people in here love it so much (including me). After Restless, his albums werent bad, but to be as dope as X can be on many classic records, he needs some directions. He always spits dope, but he needs some great producer to work with him, to make a classic effect.

he does not need great producers...his 1st albums r classic nobody on either of em were great imo

Oh, that dont have to be a rule.. he could've made a dope album himself, his first album had that underground vibe that he sounded good on, but look at his later work - what was missing?

nothing...i dont buy x music for the producers..i bought it to hear x

[Giesuz]

i think when an artist reaching the top the only way is going down that what happens with x-z too

[OG Jaydc]

Whoever said x wasn't dope and needed dre is an idiot.

Go listen to 40 days and 40 nightz, Which was way better then restless.

[Fonkarround]

Lets be honest, how was he ever going to match what happened on Restless. You had Dre's backing (which is kind of crazy because Dre never gets projects out) and all that star power.

Well, he tried for sure. "Man Vs. Machine" had Dre as the executive producer and he mixed 7 songs, but only produced 2 of them. "MVM" was a real weak album compared to "Restless" though. I think they should've made "Losin Your Mind" as the first single IMO. I think at that time Xzibit and Snoop Dogg wasn't gettin' along though so they could've not made a video for it. I'm not sure how much the album sold, but i'm sure it didn't sell as much as "Restless" did so i guess it was considered and that's probably why Dr. Dre stopped fuckin' with Xzibit or maybe Jimmy Iovine told him to start workin' with other artists or somethin' like that.

You need to bring back the Dre's vision of Aftermath in early 2000s. He wanted to make a label that drops tons of dope artists with classic albums (according to Dre's interviews).. He signed too many artists, and it just fell off. Dre didnt have time for X.
 
Restless was a dope classic west coast record, thats why people in here love it so much (including me). After Restless, his albums werent bad, but to be as dope as X can be on many classic records, he needs some directions. He always spits dope, but he needs some great producer to work with him, to make a classic effect.

he does not need great producers...his 1st albums r classic nobody on either of em were great imo

Oh, that dont have to be a rule.. he could've made a dope album himself, his first album had that underground vibe that he sounded good on, but look at his later work - what was missing?

nothing...i dont buy x music for the producers..i bought it to hear x

Um, okey. If you say so. But for me, the direction of his latest albums wasnt anything special. Just compilation of tracks, without any special meaning. (of course album quality, not any mixtape shit)

[D-Nice]

Whoever said x wasn't dope and needed dre is an idiot.

Go listen to 40 days and 40 nightz, Which was way better then restless.

Preach. The sad part about it though is you have a good portion of his fanbase that just started paying attention to X after Restless came out and do not bother to listen to his 1st 2 albums.

[OG Jaydc]

Whoever said x wasn't dope and needed dre is an idiot.

Go listen to 40 days and 40 nightz, Which was way better then restless.

Preach. The sad part about it though is you have a good portion of his fanbase that just started paying attention to X after Restless came out and do not bother to listen to his 1st 2 albums.

That's exactly it right there. They are dre fans first and look at xzibit as someone who dre created. When in fact rolling with dre hurt his career artistically. What u see is what u get > the entire restless album

[THEV1LL4N]

i dont think he fell off. his music may have become 'weaker'. i think WOMD was a good album, it was a different phase of his career which brought a mature and distinct sound at the time of release.

[Episcop Cruel Cvrle]

i jam all of his shit still today

dont see where he fell off

he got better lyrically each album..

his 1st two albums shitted on restless

sound wise restless was his most commercial album n i think he didnt need dre or quik...out of all his albums i hated that one

[Chamillitary Click]

I don't think he fell off at all. "Full Circle" isn't bad by any means. & his album before that "WOSD", is a personal classic of mine & I've seen plenty others say similar things.

Not to mention, all his recent leaks have been ill.

[love33]

i think when an artist reaching the top the only way is going down that what happens with x-z too

I don't think he really peaked out to his fullest potential.  His margin of error was a lot more strict than others got, for example, his one so-so album was his demise on the big stage.  Man v. Machine went Gold and then we never really heard from him again from a mainstream perspective.  Jay-Z, Nas, Fabolous, Snoop, Ludacris, Nelly, and others all were allowed mediocore albums, then they came back again, but it's like, X got X'd.

[D-Nice]

Whoever said x wasn't dope and needed dre is an idiot.

Go listen to 40 days and 40 nightz, Which was way better then restless.

Preach. The sad part about it though is you have a good portion of his fanbase that just started paying attention to X after Restless came out and do not bother to listen to his 1st 2 albums.

That's exactly it right there. They are dre fans first and look at xzibit as someone who dre created. When in fact rolling with dre hurt his career artistically. What u see is what u get > the entire restless album

Yeah you can tell when a person started listening to Xzibit pretty much off of what their favorite album is. I'm not saying Restless is not a incredible album because it is but 40 Dayz was on some other shit. I take that back, usually, because I have converted a couple people over to his 2nd and many more at the very least appreciated his music more after listening to 40 Dayz

[KC-HOODSTA]

x fell off cuz he gettin money B

this shit always happens he just another case son

fat joe??

50 cent??

cam'ron??

warren g??

bone thugs??

twista??


niggaz gettin that gwap so they aint gotta work as hard. an nigga bang out tracks like nothing so they over saturate THEMSELVES! IMO

all i gotta say is that he aint coming back period point blank he might get a video premiere on BET or mtv but as far as mainstream success it's over B. but dont get me wrong yo, i love x's stuff(well his first 3 albums) dude was raw as fuck but he been through alot with his daughter dying an shit you dont have the same passion.

before niggaz rapped cuz they wanted too and had too.

now niggaz rap cuz they HAVE TOO!!

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

For me, I couldn't really look at him the same after he did Pimp My Ride, he just seemed kind of corny.

Lets be honest, how was he ever going to match what happened on Restless. You had Dre's backing (which is kind of crazy because Dre never gets projects out) and all that star power.

Your right.... but he also had similar opportunities on "Man Vs. Machine" 2002, but he failed to deliver.   I mean Em hooked his ass up with "Say My Name", and Dre hooked him up with "Symphony In X Minor"... Nate was hooking him up... I mean the pieces were there he just wasn't as hungry any more.