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god damn you ALL, my thread has been shitted on to the point where it cant even go back on the right track. every fuckin thread ends up bein the same no matter what the topic is.
Quote from: Infinite Ibrahim Abdul Hamid on January 12, 2003, 08:35:01 PMSorry my Islamic beliefs haven't been superimposed by Western Culture. You guys think that as long as you act, think, dress, and believe a certain way you'll be alright. Your life and way of thinking has been sold to you the same way they sell beer or toilet tissue on those TV commercials. Trust me, nothing I have said has prevented anyone from becoming a Muslim who had Islam in their future. Yet, I have played a small role in helping others understand and even convert to Islam.Wrong...I don't need a crutch to be myself. Unlike you, Im perfectly happy with who I am and don't need a religion to make myself feel alive. My way of thinking is my own. I form opinions from facts. I have free will. I do what I feel, when I feel, and however I feel like doing it. Unlike you, Im not weak minded. I don't let commercials warp my way of thinking like you did. Whats to say that now instead of commercials warping your mind, its not organized religion? I'm my own person without religion. You've told me many times that 1 billion people share your beliefs. I'm here to let you know that 4 billion don't necessarly think the same way you do. You need to understand and accept that.I haven't seen anybody here say that you've pointed them to islam, but instead, I've seen 2 say you've turned them away.
Sorry my Islamic beliefs haven't been superimposed by Western Culture. You guys think that as long as you act, think, dress, and believe a certain way you'll be alright. Your life and way of thinking has been sold to you the same way they sell beer or toilet tissue on those TV commercials. Trust me, nothing I have said has prevented anyone from becoming a Muslim who had Islam in their future. Yet, I have played a small role in helping others understand and even convert to Islam.
But if he is part of allah, you said "All things come from Allah" then his decisions are right
All things come from allah? Didn't we aready cover this topic Infinite? You regressed on it before, now you are going back to it. You'll say damn near anything to win an arguement. Doesn't allah teach you ethics morals? But like I said before, if all things from come from Allah all evil comes from Allah. Allah controls all, allah controls evil. Allah controls Doggy's sick dreams. It's Allah's fault and he isn't gonna stop fucking with your head until you get down on your knees and beg like infinite is telling you to.Other things that come from Allah:1. Osama Bin Laden2. George Bush3. Cats4. Dogs5. Child Molesters6. Ice Cream7. Saddam Hussein8. Penises9. Western Culture10. Homelessness11. Porn Movies12. Boogers13. Everything Evil14. Everything Good15. Everything Not Yet MentionedSo you see, since everything comes from Allah you may be evil and never know it. In fact life is an uncertain mess. We all came from Allah but we all aren't perfect. Some of us are good/evil, smart/stupid, crazy/sane. But we can never know, only Allah knows. Doubt everything, because it all came from Allah. If your believe in Jesus don't be so sure that's correct because your belief came from Allah. You can't really be sure of anything really. Do I really want to type this or is Allah making me type this? Obviously its Allah. Allah has no penis. Shit now he is being a big Jerk. Allah fucks his mother. Damn he did it again. Fuck Fuck Fuck Bitch Fuck. All things come from Allah, indeed this message I'm giving you now is coming from Allah. Allah says go kill yourself infinite.
You make your own desicions because you believe yourself to be the wisest desicion maker. I believe Allah to be the wisest.
When is Allah's power exercised?- At every moment, of every day. There is nothing that is done without the will of Allah.
Seriously, I'm not religious but why would anyone ever want to worship a guy that is "leading people astray?"However, the free will arguement doesn't work quite well either. You can't say I have free will on faith. Free will either exists or it doesn't. You say you have free will to kill, rape, etc and you choose not to kill. That's not free will, thats "freedom." You have the freedom to willingly kill someone. You don't necesarily have the freedom to will murder. In your own case, you probably won't ever kill someone because you don't will killingly, but are you willingly choosing not to will killing?If I want to kill someone I can, but I don't will to kill anyone. Here is the difference again in other words.Freedom is the ability to do what you will.Free Will is the ability to will what you will. God definitely granted us freedom. Whether humans possess free will is a much more difficult idea to prove.
What you have here is a man trying to tell me that he is more intelligent than the Holy Qur'an. If you have been able to aquire such great intelligence than please bless me with your knowledge so I may follow it. Or try to emulate your great philosophies. See, what you have in actuality is nothing but arrogance and it will profit you not. And all the idealogy in the world will not convince a man that he even needs to get up off the couch. Islam is not an idealogy; but a methodology. So I am not at all concerned with what you have suggested in this thread. And the truth will soon be revealed; be certain of that.
*sigh. Re-read my post. Free AGENCY. Not free will, although sometimes we say free will since to most people who aren't anally retentive it means the same thing.We have free AGENCY. Happy with the term now? lol