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D-Nice:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on May 12, 2011, 10:53:12 AM ---
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--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on May 12, 2011, 10:42:56 AM ---Personnel > Schemes. A coachless Celtics team could have made the playoffs since they came together.

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Playoffs don't mean shit. Championship or bust is what matters and those guys didnt win shit on their other teams. It takes a damn good coach to motivate and buy into schemes and plays for players and Doc does that. Heat did not buy into Eric's plans at first and look at how much they were fucking up.

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Mike Brown was inches away. But ever if Coach K & Phil Jackson came together & coached that Cavs team, they weren't beating the Spurs.

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Point being what? Let's put it like this. Phil for example, the Lakers basically had the same team that Phil took over before he got there. They did not win shit with Del Harris. With Phil= 5 rings. When and where is it acceptable then to start giving Phil some credit for that.

Chamillitary Click:
Point being that one player carried Brown all the way to the Finals. Then lack of talent outside of LeBron lost it from there.

On that '97-'98 team, Kobe averaged nine PPG lol. The next year the season was shortened & they lost to the Spurs; Kobe only averaging 20. Then Kobe started averaged nearly 30 along with Shaq & they won rings.

That's why Phil took off that one year a few years ago. He knew it was just going to look bad for his resume. He didn't have the players.

7even:
Seriously Cham you're just trolling at this point. On one hand you're basically saying "coaches don't mean shit, regardless who is coaching, the players do everything" and then you turn around and say "Coach X is overrated or Coach Y sucks"... what the fuck is this, nigga? How can certain coaches suck if they are just standing there anyways? If it doesn't matter and all coaches are the same, why even talk about if a certain coach is good or trash?

D-Nice:

--- Quote from: 7even on May 12, 2011, 01:10:45 PM ---Seriously Cham you're just trolling at this point. On one hand you're basically saying "coaches don't mean shit, regardless who is coaching, the players do everything" and then you turn around and say "Coach X is overrated or Coach Y sucks"... what the fuck is this, nigga? How can certain coaches suck if they are just standing there anyways? If it doesn't matter and all coaches are the same, why even talk about if a certain coach is good or trash?

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Exactly. There is a reason why the elite coaches are winning titles and the bum ass ones are not. And talent most of the time is not the reason why.

Lunatic:
Look at first year coach Larry Drew on the Hawks. Basically the exact same team they had last year yet the playoff run has been great

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