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Gasol+Odom for Dwight+Arenas trade scenario...Orlando Sentinal article inside.
OG Hack Wilson:
NIK has been on record saying Gasol is the best big man so I guess he'd be against this, eh?
teecee:
It's gonna take Bynum plus to get Howard, ans the lakers don't have the plus.
I'm with Kobe: current lakers lineup can still dk it, they just all played like shit
Sccit:
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--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 14, 2011, 11:07:35 AM ---I'm not sure about this trade. A few things
The negatives: Lamar IS the Lakers bench. He is inconsistent, but the rest of the bench is ass. And he isnt any more inconsisten than Arenas. And speakin of Arenas, holy shit. That contract is fuckin RIDICULOUS. That might be what holds up this trade. Im sure no one in the NBA wants to take on that contract, for what they are gonna get.
The positives: Defensively the Lakers will be very good in the paint. They will be very good on the boards. That will help big time in the playoffs. Also, Howard will sell jerseys. lol
The problem I see tho, is that it will force the Lakers to settle for even more outside jumpers without Gasol. The thing is, Bynum is like a poor mans Dwight Howard. You dont really wanna have two guys out there who cant hit a 10-15 foot jumper. True, they will clog the lane on defense, but they will also clog it on offense. No opposing big is gonna follow Dwight or Bynum 15 feet away from the rim, they will just stay in the driving lanes and deny penetration. If there is any kind of kick out to one of those two, who gives a fuck. If I was the Lakers, and wanted Howard, I would try to find a way to move Bynum instead. Unless they are planning to have him come off the bench, which I doubt his attitude could handle.
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LOL...u cant be serious. Bynum is a poor man's Dwight? dude, do u even watch basketball? Dwight and Bynum are nothing alike. Dwight relies on athleticism to score most his points, while Bynum pounds u down low and has a great back-to-the-basket game with an arsenal of various post moves. Two completely different types of players. If Arenas moves to the starting line-up, Fisher moves to the bench...that'll give us some much needed sharp-shooting comin' off the bench, and I expect a lot more from Blake and Barnes next year, as well. BTW, Bynum CAN hit the 10-15 foot jumper...another reason I don't think u've watched him play that much. As far as moving Bynum, FUCK THAT...Twin-towers=the way to go.
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You would argue no matter what I said. And lol@ "arsenal of various post moves". LOL!! Yeah...there was Mchale...Hakeem...Duncan...and Bynum. All guys with an "arsenal of post moves" lol. You are fuckin comedy man. And yes, Bynum is like a poor mans Howard. They are both bigs who's primary contribution will be on defense and rebounds. Offensively, fuckin 99% of their points are coming in the lane a foot from the basket. And yeah, youre right....Bynum is a deadly shooter lol. Its better to have one big man who is the defensive stopper, rebounder, back to the basket guy (howard), and one big who can face up more, take someone off the dribble, or maybe even hit the jumper. With Bynum and Howard you wont have that second guy. True, Gasol is soft as fuck. But he is still more skilled than Bynum by far, and would fit better with Dwight. Bynum is just Bynum...he's dispensable, injury prone, and a fuckin bitch. Trade his ass.
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Bynum is a back-to-the-basket scorer, if u deny this, ur a dumbfuck. Never said he was on the level of Hakeem, but that's completely irrelevant. Fact of the matter is, Bynum CAN face up and shoot, as he has a good stroke for a 7 footer, and even if he couldn't shoot, we don't need our bigs shooting jump-shots anyways. Really, though, Bynum is just as good on offense as he is on defense, he is not primarily a defender like ur tryna make it seem...Bynum and Dwight would be deadly down low, trust me. Bynum is not dispensable LOL. He is a top 3 center in the league, a 23 year old 7 foot 300 pound force who could easily be a 20-12 guy if an offense ran through him...suck a dick, dumbass.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: 7even on May 14, 2011, 03:21:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 14, 2011, 02:57:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on May 14, 2011, 01:49:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 14, 2011, 11:07:35 AM ---The negatives: Lamar IS the Lakers bench. He is inconsistent, but the rest of the bench is ass. And he isnt any more inconsisten than Arenas. And speakin of Arenas, holy shit. That contract is fuckin RIDICULOUS. That might be what holds up this trade. Im sure no one in the NBA wants to take on that contract, for what they are gonna get.
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He's the 2nd most overpaid player in the league I guess, and his contract is hard to stomach. Still, he's better than trash and I'm sure Cuban doesn't give a fuck if he can get the best center since Shaq in the process.
That said, this trade would obviously be good for the Lakers. I don't even want to explain why or how, because I'm sure of it and so should most people.
What's very funny though is this: On the one hand you had Kobe, a broken body but the most focused, most willed player in the game. On the other hand you have Howard, the best body in the game, yet someone who likes to fool around all the time, eating burgers before games in the locker room, chatting with random people courtside while the game is on, stuff like this. It would be funny how Kobe deals with the physical phenomenon that Howard is, when he sees him having 0 focus. Just saying.
Next, in all honesty ...and I'm not just saying this because I'd hate for this trade to happen... for the Magic it would not make sense. After trading Howard, they'd have 0% chances of winning a championship. So the best they could do is winning around 50 games and that's it - you don't need Gasol's big contract for this. You really don't. You'd rather save money and build for the future.
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LOL...so they're better off losing Dwight for nothing than getting Gasol, Odom, AND rid of Arenas contract? you are retarded.
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No, they are better off trying to appease him or trading him and Arenas and maybe even Hedo for something else in return, like expiring contracts and lesser paid players. Lol @ your ignorant self-absorbed ass drawing random conclusions because the only option you see is a trade with Lakers, like they are the only team in the league. Stop sniffing.
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oh, so they should trade Dwight for expiring contracts LMAO....but when the Grizzlies did that with Gasol, it was "robbery by the Lakers" and "the worst trade in NBA history"....are all Germans this dumb when it comes to basketball? Really, if the Magic can get Odom AND Gasol while getting rid of Arenas' contract, I'm pretty sure they'll be more than happy to do it. Surely, even an idiot like u knows that Lakers make the biggest moves in NBA history, so it makes sense to discuss our next potential big move....not the ONLY option, but clearly the most probable one.
Chamillitary Click:
You'd cry because you'd only see Kobe fail more & never get another ring opposed to him clinging on to Dwight dominating games for him & opening up room for him to shoot lol.
So since you're more Kobe > Lakers (than team > player), you're in a lose-lose cry situation. Either see them never win again with Kobe or watch Kobe become the 2nd fiddle; something Jordan never was.
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