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We Should Cut Special Education
Sami:
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on June 22, 2011, 05:48:53 PM ---Well, probably because you are arguing something that has nothing to do with the SPECIFIC topic we are discussing. My rebuttal applied to the small part of your post that applied here, which is a very specific debate on how to control education spending and how to route the money. Yes you can argue about tax code, out of control defense spending, jobs being shipped off, but we're kinda talking about special education, who's eligible, and how big the program should be. See?
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All these issues are inter-related, you can't deny that.
Bad economy = lower revenue
Lower revenue = higher deficit
Lower revenue + tax cuts = even lower revenue
Even lower revenue = higher deficit
Higher deficit = higher interest
Lower revenue + higher interest + more tax cuts = even lower revenue
Even lower revenue + severe spending cuts = worse economy
Worse economy = Even lower revenue
It's a repeating cycle.
Russell Bell:
--- Quote from: Sami on June 22, 2011, 06:10:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on June 22, 2011, 05:48:53 PM ---Well, probably because you are arguing something that has nothing to do with the SPECIFIC topic we are discussing. My rebuttal applied to the small part of your post that applied here, which is a very specific debate on how to control education spending and how to route the money. Yes you can argue about tax code, out of control defense spending, jobs being shipped off, but we're kinda talking about special education, who's eligible, and how big the program should be. See?
--- End quote ---
All these issues are inter-related, you can't deny that.
Bad economy = lower revenue
Lower revenue = higher deficit
Lower revenue + tax cuts = even lower revenue
Even lower revenue = higher deficit
Higher deficit = higher interest
Lower revenue + higher interest + more tax cuts = even lower revenue
Even lower revenue + severe spending cuts = worse economy
Worse economy = Even lower revenue
It's a repeating cycle.
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Yea sure, but im talking fundamental policy change to save and divert $ from the piece of the pie that WE ALREADY HAVE funneled towards education, not how to make that piece bigger or "why is that piece small oh its cause the guys behind the curtains fucking people over etc". And im specifically talking policy, whereas he wasnt really refuting or agreeing to much of what i said, just making broad arguments about taking mothers off welfare which is not what we're discussing, at least i thought.
virtuoso:
You can't just look at this topic without encompassing the bigger issues. It seems like you are advocating some kind of rationing of education for those in the most need of it. The cause of this mindset is the great robbery of the last 100 years.
Sikotic™:
Fuck that.
Look y'all. Education is not expensive. For what you get out of it, the cost pales in comparison tot he benefits.
Just in California, they cut education funds by 25%. A quarter of what they had is now gone and they were struggling from previous cutbacks. Trillions of dollars is being invested willingly into the US's foreign conquests, but they don't wanna provide the bare minimum in funding that would provide all of their citizens with a quality education. The illiteracy rate in Detroit is 47% right now. Does any of this make sense to anybody?
They want you to be stupid, and we're getting fucked in the ass willingly. And its working.
Sami:
Thank you SIK, I was having trouble wording that point.
Education and literacy are the foundation of a free society. How can people enforce their rights if they can't read the laws and understand the context of why and how they exist?
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