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Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 29, 2011, 01:06:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on June 27, 2011, 05:27:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on June 27, 2011, 04:52:37 PM ---LOL thier is NO Kobe vs Jordan debate except in your mind.I don't think I've seen anyone but a laker groupie even think thier is a debate
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That's what I'm saying. This guy says I'm bitter...you just sat there & came up with some crazy statistic to attempt to prove a point that is just irrelevant.
My favorite part of your posts is how you demand people to agree with you or else they're "nutriding". It's simply amazing how defensive you get when people shut you up.
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no...ur not a nutrider because of this, lmao, uv been a nutrider wayyyy before.... but notice, i posted up an interesting fact, and instead of refuting it by presenting facts of ur own, u come in here on some bs "kobe chucked up a bunch of shots in that season!", "you're crediting kobe for points he didn't score!!", "I love LeBron!!"....nothing u said was relevant nor did it make any sense...so next time, when i present reasonable statistics that most people dont know, try bringing up valid points instead of speakin out ur ass about how much u love lebron and how no one will ever touch jordan because u said so...son. it not only makes u look dumb, but also gay. step it up.
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So your response to me saying this statistic is irrelevant is saying "you're a nutrider"? Sounds like you have quite a compelling argument there lol. Really driving home your point of "Kobe > MJ" by talking about me. ::)
I gave you facts:
1. Neither Jordan or Kobe won in the years we're talking.
2. You're talking about the regular season, the same regular season you disregard LeBron's superior stats to Kobe's because they aren't playoff stats.
3. MJ's stats you're talking about are from his third year. Kobe's are from his ninth. MJ was still coming up, Kobe was in his absolute prime.
4. You pulled a ridiculous statistic you're using for an argument which is based off of "what if's", "probably's" & "most likely's".
Bottom line, no matter whether you said it or not, I know you're dumb, Jewish as posted this stat as to say, "IF Kobe played in the league that year, he WOULD HAVE score 40 PPG". Otherwise, what's the purpose of posting it? LOL, for Christ's sake the thread title is "Interesting stat in the Kobe vs Jordan debate...". CLEARLY you're idiotic ass is trying to suggest Kobe is better because "insert ridiculous irrelevant statistic". How can you possibly deny that?
Don't take it out on me because you look like a complete moron right now lol.
C'mon, "step it up". ;)
Citizen-Y:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 29, 2011, 12:59:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Citizen-Y on June 27, 2011, 02:39:49 PM ---.539 > .469
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and what percentage is that, exactly? in Jordan's highest scoring season, he shot 48% while averaging less than one 3 point attempted per game. over the course of his career, he shot 49.7%.....having an efficient long range jumpshot>not having a dependable shot from outside. percentages do not take into account how much range u have. Shaq shot 58% on his career...58%>any season Jordan ever had. thats right, son.
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He led the league in scoring during the year he posted .539 what more do you want son. How about you go by win shares? Oh, you won't bring that up cause Michael shits on your boy in that as well.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on June 29, 2011, 03:24:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 29, 2011, 01:06:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on June 27, 2011, 05:27:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on June 27, 2011, 04:52:37 PM ---LOL thier is NO Kobe vs Jordan debate except in your mind.I don't think I've seen anyone but a laker groupie even think thier is a debate
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That's what I'm saying. This guy says I'm bitter...you just sat there & came up with some crazy statistic to attempt to prove a point that is just irrelevant.
My favorite part of your posts is how you demand people to agree with you or else they're "nutriding". It's simply amazing how defensive you get when people shut you up.
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no...ur not a nutrider because of this, lmao, uv been a nutrider wayyyy before.... but notice, i posted up an interesting fact, and instead of refuting it by presenting facts of ur own, u come in here on some bs "kobe chucked up a bunch of shots in that season!", "you're crediting kobe for points he didn't score!!", "I love LeBron!!"....nothing u said was relevant nor did it make any sense...so next time, when i present reasonable statistics that most people dont know, try bringing up valid points instead of speakin out ur ass about how much u love lebron and how no one will ever touch jordan because u said so...son. it not only makes u look dumb, but also gay. step it up.
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So your response to me saying this statistic is irrelevant is saying "you're a nutrider"? Sounds like you have quite a compelling argument there lol. Really driving home your point of "Kobe > MJ" by talking about me. ::)
I gave you facts:
1. Neither Jordan or Kobe won in the years we're talking.
2. You're talking about the regular season, the same regular season you disregard LeBron's superior stats to Kobe's because they aren't playoff stats.
3. MJ's stats you're talking about are from his third year. Kobe's are from his ninth. MJ was still coming up, Kobe was in his absolute prime.
4. You pulled a ridiculous statistic you're using for an argument which is based off of "what if's", "probably's" & "most likely's".
Bottom line, no matter whether you said it or not, I know you're dumb, Jewish as posted this stat as to say, "IF Kobe played in the league that year, he WOULD HAVE score 40 PPG". Otherwise, what's the purpose of posting it? LOL, for Christ's sake the thread title is "Interesting stat in the Kobe vs Jordan debate...". CLEARLY you're idiotic ass is trying to suggest Kobe is better because "insert ridiculous irrelevant statistic". How can you possibly deny that?
Don't take it out on me because you look like a complete moron right now lol.
C'mon, "step it up". ;)
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no...ur a nutrider because a.)u came in here to talk shit, regardless of whatever stat i woulda brought up and b.)you brought up lebron, as if he's relevant to this conversation lmao...lebron not being on kobe or jordan's level has nothing to do with him not winning rings. in fact, it's the other way around, lebron has no rings because he's not on kobe or jordan's level, plain and simple. lebron does not have the basketball mind of either. he doesn't have the fundamentals, footwork, post game, etc. of a jordan or kobe...as far as scoring goes, his arsenal isn't even close. and most of all, he doesn't have the tenacity, the heart, the pure will of either...thats why he ran to miami to play behind wade, because he is simply not on that level...so dont bring up that weakass 2nd option player when i make these topics, because it's just a flat out embarrassment to real basketball heads. as far as kobe and jordan not winning in the years posted, great, but that doesnt change the fact that people always use the argument of jordan having amazing scoring seasons in the 80s as one of the biggest reasons kobe isn't as good. so when realizing the fact that scoring was more prevalent back in those days, how does it not make sense to factor in that kobe's scoring in terms of ratio is more impressive? please make sense., dumbfuck. also, when kobe was in his physyical prime, shaq was around...kobe did not have a team to himself like jordan did, he had to share a majority of his offense with shaq, hence, his numbers not being as high as jordan's in his early years. so when kobe was in his 9th year, that was basically his first time running a team with him being the main scoring option...imagine how many more scoring records and amazing feats kobe wouldve accomplished if shaq wasnt around in his physical prime...mind-boggling....and last but not least, u dumb piece of shit, i didn't pull out a "ridiculous stat based on what ifs", i pulled out a stat based on ratio, and if u were not such a remedial retard, u would realize that ratio is part of MATH, not bogus statistics...man up and accept ur 98779387247th loss, u dumb bitch.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Citizen-Y on June 29, 2011, 04:39:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 29, 2011, 12:59:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Citizen-Y on June 27, 2011, 02:39:49 PM ---.539 > .469
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and what percentage is that, exactly? in Jordan's highest scoring season, he shot 48% while averaging less than one 3 point attempted per game. over the course of his career, he shot 49.7%.....having an efficient long range jumpshot>not having a dependable shot from outside. percentages do not take into account how much range u have. Shaq shot 58% on his career...58%>any season Jordan ever had. thats right, son.
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He led the league in scoring during the year he posted .539 what more do you want son. How about you go by win shares? Oh, you won't bring that up cause Michael shits on your boy in that as well.
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u wanna go by winning? both kobe and jordan failed in their highest scoring seasons... as of now,though, jordan has 6 titles and kobe has 5. BUT, when jordan was kobe's age, he still had 3 championships ahead of him...so if we go by wins, we have 2 wait til kobe finished his career, son.
Chamillitary Click:
NIK sounds so angry when he's dead wrong it's absurd. Sadly enough, I read all of that though.
I know in your head you figured writing a lot would cover for you. But for literally the first entire half of that you did nothing but RAMBLE about nothing relevant to the actual topic, just bashing LeBron because you truly think it bothers me. Which just goes to show how ANGRY it makes you when people talk shit about Kobe. You thought talking down about LeBron would eat me inside the way it DESTROYS you to hear about Kobe in a negative light.
LeBron wasn't brought up because of anything BUT the fact to prove you're a hypocrite for trying to fight Kobe > MJ with regular season stats when I can easily show LeBron > Kobe with regular season stats, but you said that's "not allowed" because the only thing that matters is the post-season. Right there you lost that one, chief.
Next, I SAW KOBE WITHOUT SHAQ LOL. Nigga did absolutely nothing. The year you're talking about, no Shaq, no ring. Getting back to EXACTLY why you're a faggot ass hypocrite because you're talking about a "LeBron-type season" with phenomenal stats & nothing to show for it in the playoffs. Yet THAT'S your argument for Kobe. Do you listen to yourself?
Finally, I never said it was a bogus statistic, dipshit. It's just moronic to compare a Jordan season nearly 20 years before Kobe's season. You're talking about two different leagues. Nobody played then that played in Kobe's year (that was relevant in Kobe's year). So inevitably, you're fighting an argument for Kobe that you cannot prove. Like I said & you just keeping saying "I DIDN'T SAY THAT!", you're saying "Imagine Kobe played then, because math proves he would of scored 40 PPG". Why post the stat & say it's "interesting in this debate..." if you didn't think that? You're just denying that's what this is all about because now the more you think about it, the more you realize how fucking stupid you sound. Different teams, different players, different officiating, different era's of basketball.
& a side note, LMFAO @ saying "Kobe was the main scoring option" after Shaq, when before this thread it was "Kobe > Shaq" during those years. "Shaq rode Kobe", etc. First the current Lakers team was the greatest, then the past few years you've shitted on everyone not named Kobe, just to fight the argument that he's better. Now you're going back on saying Kobe won those three-peat years by saying Shaq played a bigger role. You're a joke. Also without Shaq winning those rings for Kobe, he would have two rings & even you couldn't defend Kobe over Jordan then.
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