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Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
teecee:
--- Quote from: LooN3y on June 30, 2011, 08:16:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on June 27, 2011, 02:14:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 26, 2011, 11:51:50 PM ---Some of you may already know this, but i never gave much thought to this before today...when comparing Kobe's and Jordan's scoring accomplishments, i noticed how much higher the amount of scoring was in the league back when Jordan played.
Just to take the two players highest scoring years as an example, MJ scored 37.1 ppg in 1986-1987, when teams were averaging 109.9 ppg. In contrast, Kobe scored 35.4 ppg in 2005-2006, when teams were averaging 97.1 ppg.
Or, to put it another way:
MJ: 37.1/109.9 = 0.337579618
Kobe: 35.4/97.1 = 0.364572606
Kobe's "ratio," based on 109.9 points per game, would have equaled 40.1 ppg.
When seen in the context of his era, Kobe's peak scoring is even more impressive.
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Imagine what Kobe could average if he was as efficient offensively as MJ
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what do u mean by efficient, i hope ur not talking about FG percentage. kobe is more of a shooter thus having a lower fg %
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If Kobe is suchb a great outside shooter, why are his percentages nowhere near guys like Nash or Allen? Even Lebron shoots roughly the same on three's.
And NIK, why bring Shaq into this? Kobe and MJ are same size, similar athletically, so thats a legit comparison. MJ got to the rim, and had the best post up game of an outside player ever.
Either way, Kobe put up a SHITLOAD of points that one year, props to him. But the Kobe and Jordan debate only exists to Kobe's fanclub; Kobe has done so many things, has so many accomplishments, but you guys know his career isn't, and won't touch Jordan, save for if Kobe stays healthy and beats him strictly on longevity like a Kareem
Sccit:
--- Quote from: teecee on June 30, 2011, 10:13:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: LooN3y on June 30, 2011, 08:16:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on June 27, 2011, 02:14:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 26, 2011, 11:51:50 PM ---Some of you may already know this, but i never gave much thought to this before today...when comparing Kobe's and Jordan's scoring accomplishments, i noticed how much higher the amount of scoring was in the league back when Jordan played.
Just to take the two players highest scoring years as an example, MJ scored 37.1 ppg in 1986-1987, when teams were averaging 109.9 ppg. In contrast, Kobe scored 35.4 ppg in 2005-2006, when teams were averaging 97.1 ppg.
Or, to put it another way:
MJ: 37.1/109.9 = 0.337579618
Kobe: 35.4/97.1 = 0.364572606
Kobe's "ratio," based on 109.9 points per game, would have equaled 40.1 ppg.
When seen in the context of his era, Kobe's peak scoring is even more impressive.
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Imagine what Kobe could average if he was as efficient offensively as MJ
--- End quote ---
what do u mean by efficient, i hope ur not talking about FG percentage. kobe is more of a shooter thus having a lower fg %
--- End quote ---
If Kobe is suchb a great outside shooter, why are his percentages nowhere near guys like Nash or Allen? Even Lebron shoots roughly the same on three's.
And NIK, why bring Shaq into this? Kobe and MJ are same size, similar athletically, so thats a legit comparison. MJ got to the rim, and had the best post up game of an outside player ever.
Either way, Kobe put up a SHITLOAD of points that one year, props to him. But the Kobe and Jordan debate only exists to Kobe's fanclub; Kobe has done so many things, has so many accomplishments, but you guys know his career isn't, and won't touch Jordan, save for if Kobe stays healthy and beats him strictly on longevity like a Kareem
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do nash and allen sink fadeaway threes over 2 defenders? kobe is known for makin miracle shots. call me the day ray allen and steve nash go up against defenses like kobe has faced...everyone knows kobe has a great stroke, so to question that is beyond me. i dont think ive ever seen some1 question kobe's shot before, and to compare it to lebrons? this is new. bottom line, jordan's range was not like kobe's, and the more range u have as a player, the lower ur percentages will naturally be. look at jordan and kobe's true shooting percentage on their career, and it is extremely close, not like the regular fg%, which fools the casual basketball fans eye.. kobe's career may never be as glamorous as jordan's...but as far as pure ability, i stand by the fact that there is nothing jordan could do on the court that kobe couldn't. like i said, jordan at kobe's age had 3 championsips ahead of him...we'll resume this convo after kobe's career is over.
ps...great point on that longevity tip...if kobe lasts anywhere near kareem and wins at least 1-2 more titles, there is no way anyone will be able to claim he aint in GOAT discussion.
Chamillitary Click:
I can't even argue with you anymore. You don't even respond, you just stick to your personal shit. I.E. point 3 of my last post. You just said, "doesn't matter the league scored low". It does matter moron. You're trying to talk math & don't understand regardless of what everyone else is scoring the Bulls put up 110 PPG & the Lakers 107 PPG in the same 48 minute span to do so. That's not NEARLY as exaggerated as you made it seem by like 20 PPG. & looking at it logically like that, Jordan shits on Kobe. You just like to twist things.
But I'll take those desperate attempts at me as a sign that you're clearly reaching.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on July 01, 2011, 01:16:08 PM ---I can't even argue with you anymore. You don't even respond, you just stick to your personal shit. I.E. point 3 of my last post. You just said, "doesn't matter the league scored low". It does matter moron. You're trying to talk math & don't understand regardless of what everyone else is scoring the Bulls put up 110 PPG & the Lakers 107 PPG in the same 48 minute span to do so. That's not NEARLY as exaggerated as you made it seem by like 20 PPG. & looking at it logically like that, Jordan shits on Kobe. You just like to twist things.
But I'll take those desperate attempts at me as a sign that you're clearly reaching.
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wtf are u talkin about, retard? lakers averaged 99.4 ppg in Kobe's 35.4 ppg season, not 107. do u even try makin sense anymore? and regardless, my main point still stands, fuckindumbshit...the league scoring was much higher in jordan's era. out of all my groupies ive ever had on this site, swear 2 god u are the dumbest one who makes the least sense when riding dick. and u feel so comfortable doing so, just because so many other people ride my dick.. u feel validated because u think ur part of something bigger than urself, what a faggot....ali was right, u are plastic as fuck, u retard.
Chamillitary Click:
...wasn't talking about that year...
I was bringing up another "interesting stat in the Kobe vs Jordan debate" LOL.
I love how you have to fall back on this conspiracy over you to defend what you say. You're lost, son lol.
& like I said, it doesn't matter what the league scoring was...just the Bulls & the Lakers scoring. & you took two random years...as did I. You just look silly now.
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