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Interesting stat in Kobe vs Jordan debate......
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on July 04, 2011, 11:07:31 PM ---lol, like you have an credibility left outside of Brian, the kid you bitch around.
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i dunno, ur the type of fag who lives for internet cred, so u tell me, retard.
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on July 04, 2011, 11:11:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on July 04, 2011, 11:07:31 PM ---lol, like you have an credibility left outside of Brian, the kid you bitch around.
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i dunno, ur the type of fag who lives for internet cred, so u tell me, retard.
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lol, same nigga who told me, "you're making assumptions that aren't truth". ::)
Hypocrite.
whoisthis:
Jordan scored more 2 more points than Kobe, while playing one less minute. He did that without chucking 518 threes, which is nearly 6.5 attempts per game. Jordan got to the line more than Kobe in a time where touch fouls were not called every other possession. That's efficient. That's playing smart and not using an unreliable game to get your points up.
As for shooting, Jordan didn't chuck threes on a regular. Never averaged more than 3.6 per game in a season (Kobe has 8 seasons averaging more than that). But, in Jordan's best seasons he averaged 37% twice and over 40% once. Kobe has never averaged more than 38% in his best season. And has only 1 other season above 36%. To say "Kobe is more of a shooter" to justify his poor shooting percentage makes me laugh. Reggie Miller had put up 2000 more three's than Kobe and has a better career average from the Field and the three.
If that player is in love with the three and is not efficient when putting those shots up, then he must live with and own up to his shooting percentages. Excuses cannot be made by either the player nor the fan. Said player should stick to what makes him better. Just like Jordan stuck to what made his game great. Kobe should follow that idea. Because he's a terrible three point shooter, just like Jordan (Kobe only shoots a percent or so better on career averages from three than MJ).
Sccit:
--- Quote from: whoisthis on July 07, 2011, 02:23:17 PM ---Jordan scored more 2 more points than Kobe, while playing one less minute. He did that without chucking 518 threes, which is nearly 6.5 attempts per game. Jordan got to the line more than Kobe in a time where touch fouls were not called every other possession. That's efficient. That's playing smart and not using an unreliable game to get your points up.
As for shooting, Jordan didn't chuck threes on a regular. Never averaged more than 3.6 per game in a season (Kobe has 8 seasons averaging more than that). But, in Jordan's best seasons he averaged 37% twice and over 40% once. Kobe has never averaged more than 38% in his best season. And has only 1 other season above 36%. To say "Kobe is more of a shooter" to justify his poor shooting percentage makes me laugh. Reggie Miller had put up 2000 more three's than Kobe and has a better career average from the Field and the three.
If that player is in love with the three and is not efficient when putting those shots up, then he must live with and own up to his shooting percentages. Excuses cannot be made by either the player nor the fan. Said player should stick to what makes him better. Just like Jordan stuck to what made his game great. Kobe should follow that idea. Because he's a terrible three point shooter, just like Jordan (Kobe only shoots a percent or so better on career averages from three than MJ).
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lmao....kobe is a terrible three point shooter? the guy holds the record for most threes in an nba game. u are on some other shit, really. i have NEVER heard any1 call kobe a terrible shooter before. and btw, u failed to mention that kobe plays in an era of zone defense, where teams send a double and triple team to u every time u get hot...jordan never faced these type of smothering defenses that kobe has faced in this modern era. lmao, craig ehlo? hersey hawkins? single-coverage? come on, man, some of the defenses against jordan were pathetic...in that sense, kobe coulda scored 100.
whoisthis:
Kobe is streaky. Funny you mention his record. But didn't mention that in the 3 games leading up to that game he was a combined 1-14 from 3? And the 2 games after that he was 0-5. So take those 6 games and he was a combined 13-39. Not great.
That season he did end up with his best 3 point fg % ever and 12 3's in a game is a great feat, but look at the rest of his body of work... it's terrible.
He has his moments where he CAN be a great 3 point shooter, but because he chooses to chuck from way beyond the arc, because he chooses to chuck with "double and triple teams" in his face, because HE makes those decisions... he's a terrible 3 point shooter.
Guys like Ehlo and Hawkins were better shooters. They may have never been defended the way Kobe was, but that doesn't mean they're not better shooters.
Anyone can speculate about defenses and tempos and if so and so played here they would've scored this much.... If you're so curious about that join one of those fantasy sites that allows you to match up players from other years. But let the stats speak for themselves. Kobe is a chucker and a bad 3 point shooter (look at how low he ranks in career percentages). 33.9%
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