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Quote from: 3rd Coast on September 16, 2011, 11:34:10 AMsnoop went to nl because one thing...master p was the only person out of all the labels at the time..that wasnt scared to go deal with suge...he got snoop out his deal... and changed all of snoops work.. dropped doggy dogg...the publishing ...etc...suge thought he was finna get a dr dre eazy e deal...n he could eat off em..suge couldnt eat off shit of snoop ...cept the stuff he had in the vault..thats why he tried to release those albums..kuz once p signed the papers n got snoop to new orleans...suge got fucked..I'm pretty sure Suge Knight was still getting paid off of Snoop's No Limit material.
snoop went to nl because one thing...master p was the only person out of all the labels at the time..that wasnt scared to go deal with suge...he got snoop out his deal... and changed all of snoops work.. dropped doggy dogg...the publishing ...etc...suge thought he was finna get a dr dre eazy e deal...n he could eat off em..suge couldnt eat off shit of snoop ...cept the stuff he had in the vault..thats why he tried to release those albums..kuz once p signed the papers n got snoop to new orleans...suge got fucked..
Quote from: NIKCC on September 16, 2011, 12:44:16 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 16, 2011, 12:19:13 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on September 16, 2011, 11:18:08 AMQuote from: Jimmy H. on September 15, 2011, 10:19:00 PMSales might not determine what is good but they are a pretty good measuring stick of what is a hit. So you think INAD was a bigger hit and more popular than G Thang or What's My Name or Forgot About Dre?That's industry talk clouding your brain.FACT: It's a bigger hit in 2011 than Dre's other singles were in the years they were released (with the exception of G Thang). If not sales or radio spins what the fuck do you want to judge it by? Your ranking of the favorite songs from your childhood is not a measure of how popular songs were.when u continuously choose to ignore the fact that single sales have sky-rocketed since the introduction of itune singles for 99 cents and u continuously dodge that fact in every single one of ur posts, it just goes to show what a fucking moron u are. thats the end of it.You're the one ignoring my posts. I've told you repeatedly that the billboard tracks sales AND radio spins.Fact: Still Dre only reached position 95 on the hot 100. INAD reached number 4. That means its HUGELY more successful compared to other songs. You keep talking about iTune sales, but do you see me quoting digital sales? No, the billboard position shows a song's success RELATIVE to other popular songs. Meaning Still Dre was in 93rd place behind 93 other songs. And INAD was in 4th behind 3 other songs. Only an idiot could still be denying what's right in front of you.The people who disagree are still talking about the quality of the song and how it will never be a part of Dre's legacy. That's proof enough that your bias towards not liking the song is blinding you to fact. I guarantee you if you loved the song, you wouldn't be disagreeing.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 16, 2011, 12:19:13 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on September 16, 2011, 11:18:08 AMQuote from: Jimmy H. on September 15, 2011, 10:19:00 PMSales might not determine what is good but they are a pretty good measuring stick of what is a hit. So you think INAD was a bigger hit and more popular than G Thang or What's My Name or Forgot About Dre?That's industry talk clouding your brain.FACT: It's a bigger hit in 2011 than Dre's other singles were in the years they were released (with the exception of G Thang). If not sales or radio spins what the fuck do you want to judge it by? Your ranking of the favorite songs from your childhood is not a measure of how popular songs were.when u continuously choose to ignore the fact that single sales have sky-rocketed since the introduction of itune singles for 99 cents and u continuously dodge that fact in every single one of ur posts, it just goes to show what a fucking moron u are. thats the end of it.
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on September 16, 2011, 11:18:08 AMQuote from: Jimmy H. on September 15, 2011, 10:19:00 PMSales might not determine what is good but they are a pretty good measuring stick of what is a hit. So you think INAD was a bigger hit and more popular than G Thang or What's My Name or Forgot About Dre?That's industry talk clouding your brain.FACT: It's a bigger hit in 2011 than Dre's other singles were in the years they were released (with the exception of G Thang). If not sales or radio spins what the fuck do you want to judge it by? Your ranking of the favorite songs from your childhood is not a measure of how popular songs were.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on September 15, 2011, 10:19:00 PMSales might not determine what is good but they are a pretty good measuring stick of what is a hit. So you think INAD was a bigger hit and more popular than G Thang or What's My Name or Forgot About Dre?That's industry talk clouding your brain.
Sales might not determine what is good but they are a pretty good measuring stick of what is a hit.
Reality Check, you're just a fucking idiot, man lmao. Like seriously dumb.I'll delete my account if you can post show anyone who posted here saying "I Need A Doctor is a better song than G Thang". You're putting words in our mouth to fight your argument because you're wrong. Nobody said anything relatively close to that. It sold more, that's all. It's a fact. Cannot be argued. End of discussion.
Since the trolls take things literally word for word, yes because "I Need a Doctor" sold 2 million+ copies & that makes it Dre's most successful single financially.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 16, 2011, 03:03:14 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 16, 2011, 12:44:16 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 16, 2011, 12:19:13 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on September 16, 2011, 11:18:08 AMQuote from: Jimmy H. on September 15, 2011, 10:19:00 PMSales might not determine what is good but they are a pretty good measuring stick of what is a hit. So you think INAD was a bigger hit and more popular than G Thang or What's My Name or Forgot About Dre?That's industry talk clouding your brain.FACT: It's a bigger hit in 2011 than Dre's other singles were in the years they were released (with the exception of G Thang). If not sales or radio spins what the fuck do you want to judge it by? Your ranking of the favorite songs from your childhood is not a measure of how popular songs were.when u continuously choose to ignore the fact that single sales have sky-rocketed since the introduction of itune singles for 99 cents and u continuously dodge that fact in every single one of ur posts, it just goes to show what a fucking moron u are. thats the end of it.You're the one ignoring my posts. I've told you repeatedly that the billboard tracks sales AND radio spins.Fact: Still Dre only reached position 95 on the hot 100. INAD reached number 4. That means its HUGELY more successful compared to other songs. You keep talking about iTune sales, but do you see me quoting digital sales? No, the billboard position shows a song's success RELATIVE to other popular songs. Meaning Still Dre was in 93rd place behind 93 other songs. And INAD was in 4th behind 3 other songs. Only an idiot could still be denying what's right in front of you.The people who disagree are still talking about the quality of the song and how it will never be a part of Dre's legacy. That's proof enough that your bias towards not liking the song is blinding you to fact. I guarantee you if you loved the song, you wouldn't be disagreeing. back when "Still DRE" came out, pop radio wasnt playing hip-hop, only hip-hop stations would give rap songs spins...nowadays, rap songs can be heard on pretty much every station. so not only did single sales change in recent years, so has radio as we know it...i'm not surprised that it got more radio play, because pop stations like KISS FM play Eminem nowadays...still, in terms of overall popularity, "I Need a Doctor" is not even coming close...as far as the UK single charts, "Still DRE" peaked higher than "I Need a Doctor". In the end, "I Need a Doctor" is one of Dre's less recognizable singles to date. only an idiot wouldnt understand why and keep bringing up the chart positions, even after it has been explained to them that times have changed the name of the game.
In my opinion a hit is not just defined by clear cut sales but also by its presence. Like, I don't know about the US, but I can easily have a very very active life without EVER coming across INAD now. However, back in the day the Backstreet Boys were huge in Europe, and you'd come across "Get Down" wherever the fuck you went. I can name countless other pop songs like that. See, even if you totally dislike Katie Perry, you can still name a bunch of songs of hers and if you're honest you can probably sing along some of them. Same thing with hiphop hits like Still Dre, In Da Club, Stan, Next Episode, It's like that, Ice Ice Baby, Ms Jackson, Can't touch this, I Got 5 on it, Gravel Pit... anybody (including rap-haters) still instantly recognizes the songs when they get played (and they still get played) and you couldn't have a life without coming across them when they were new. I don't even know how much they sold and I don't even care how good they are, I'm just saying they were very present and you couldn't avoid them (for better or for worse). Now, I can EASILY avoid I Need A Doctor if I want to. It's not on par with those songs at all, not even remotely close. I asked my 9 year old nephew if he has heard of it and he didn't. He can still sing along "Give Me Everything" by Pitbull & Ne-Yo and he doesn't understand a word of it. By the way, wasn't Crack A Bottle pretty big on digital sales? Anybody still playing it? No? Guessed so. By the way, being sold is not the only purpose of commercial music. Being known in the game and being talked about is a much bigger issue... I'm sure the likes of Rihanna can give a fuck less about some cash flow for a week due to digital sales when noone ever plays, talks about or checks for her shit. A huge hit is something that gets so big that even people who despise the artist and the song know the words.
NIK your credibility in this thread has been revoked. Stupid ass arguing against sales and radio spins.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 16, 2011, 08:32:39 PMNIK your credibility in this thread has been revoked. Stupid ass arguing against sales and radio spins.lol, speakin of credibility, when cham is the only one siding with u, u know u lost.