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virtuoso:
Ready for communism? Communism is run the elitist financial parasites too. Communism is just about the mindset of getting the people to accept peasantry through collectivism. Collectivism when forcibly imposed is murderous and tyrannical. No one should accept anything which allows these fucks to get away with it. I don't know what to make of the protest at the moment.

Triple OG Rapsodie:
communism is a good idea in theory but just doesn't apply to human nature. every historic example of it shows that.

Russell Bell:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on October 20, 2011, 10:07:13 AM ---Ready for communism? Communism is run the elitist financial parasites too. Communism is just about the mindset of getting the people to accept peasantry through collectivism. Collectivism when forcibly imposed is murderous and tyrannical. No one should accept anything which allows these fucks to get away with it. I don't know what to make of the protest at the moment.

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I agree.

I dont think people get it.  They believe in that "right vs left" paradigm that has been set up, which really has the same endgame - to control the money supply, and make the rich richer. 

Instead of buying into that, people should be trying to advocate a return to sound money (end the fed) and constitutional govt.

But that wont happen, because the left wants to reign in business with regulations which drive businesses away and allow them to make stuff in indonesia and sell it back to us and increase entitlements not realizing that "there is no such thing as a free lunch", and the right wants to police the world which keeps billions of our dollars in a stranglehold.

I cant remember how many times Ive gotten into this argument with people in life and on here.  You cant have a govt that does everything, because where would that end?  Doesnt everyone deserve welfare, free college education, affirmitive action benefits, equality no matter what, the safest world possible with american troops everywhere to ensure this, etc?  So who decides that, who crowned that person king, and how will we pay for it?  Oh wait, we cant, we dont, and our system is overblown and broke because of this thinking.  But people are too wrapped up in their own wants to realize or accept this.

Triple OG Rapsodie:
You're right, lets go back to a time where government didn't have a hand in business, unions didn't exist and the working man had no rights. lol @ complaining that corporations are now going to other countries to fuck over others instead of us. Unless you want your kids to be working in those sweatshops. How well are the people in those countries doing, you know, the countries where our corporations go to get away from our regulation? Might want to think about that before you advocate we adopt their policies.

Russell Bell:

--- Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 20, 2011, 05:57:22 PM ---You're right, lets go back to a time where government didn't have a hand in business, unions didn't exist and the working man had no rights. lol @ complaining that corporations are now going to other countries to fuck over others instead of us. Unless you want your kids to be working in those sweatshops. How well are the people in those countries doing, you know, the countries where our corporations go to get away from our regulation? Might want to think about that before you advocate we adopt their policies.

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So you missed the entire point because i struck a chord with the "left" comment.  Lol.

To you, constitutional govt (living within our means, not creating institutions which are illegal, etc) = going back to the stone age and having no rights?  When did this backwards notion of more govt regulation equate to more freedom?  Oh, its because the evil corporations are so evil, i forgot.  Well, maybe they are.  But do you really think our govt is much different?  And would you rather those people (govt bureaucrats) make the rules as we go and live with the unintended consequences (bailouts for corporations who are deemed to big to fail costing us billions and perpetuating these greedy business moves) or would you rather live with a free market where competition and choice (me and you) decide what businesses fail and succeed?

And before you try to go Upton Sinclair on me, the FDA (and countless other agencies) could be privatized and run in a smoother more efficient way, with less cost to us the public.

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