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rayallen0:
ok...i understand not liking lebron for the fashion he left Cleveland but because he joined a team with Wade & Bosh? he took a pay cut because he wanted to win. Obviously he isnt hurting for cash but most players wont take a cut (anybody remember Spreewell?) I dont think any less of Kobe for playing with the most dominant Center in the last 30 years and winning 4 rings with him. i dont think less of Pippin for playing with MJ. I dont think less of Parker or Ginobili for playing with Duncan. and i damn sure think nothing less of Allen, Garnett, Rondo & Pierce. i think alot less of Lebron for the way he left Cleveland which was classless and as of right now you are correct if he retired today he wouldnt be mentioned by us as one of the greats, but he has atleast another 8-10 years in the NBA. much to early to be making predictions of what the next generation will think of him.
LooN3y:
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on November 05, 2011, 03:56:23 AM ---ok...i understand not liking lebron for the fashion he left Cleveland but because he joined a team with Wade & Bosh? he took a pay cut because he wanted to win. Obviously he isnt hurting for cash but most players wont take a cut (anybody remember Spreewell?) I dont think any less of Kobe for playing with the most dominant Center in the last 30 years and winning 4 rings with him. i dont think less of Pippin for playing with MJ. I dont think less of Parker or Ginobili for playing with Duncan. and i damn sure think nothing less of Allen, Garnett, Rondo & Pierce. i think alot less of Lebron for the way he left Cleveland which was classless and as of right now you are correct if he retired today he wouldnt be mentioned by us as one of the greats, but he has atleast another 8-10 years in the NBA. much to early to be making predictions of what the next generation will think of him.
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I mentioned before I don't mind great old players that having only one thing missing in their resume which is a championship teaming up or joining a contender at least they had the heart do attempt it on their own,
Was ginobili a franchise player when he joined the spurs.? No he was a late 2nd draft pick, was Parker lol they wouldn't even be franchise players even if they had their own team if so very unlikey ? No, was pippin a franchise player ?
Was Kobe a franchise player or the number one pick when he got drafted ? Obviously not, the fact that Shaquille and Kobe wanted to do it on their own being the "man" lead to their split up
Lebron, bosh, and wade on the other hand, were being bitches scared and didn't even want to go on tryna do it by themselves, that's some pussy ass shit, that shows no competitive heart. U think when ray Allen, kg, and pierce were in their prime they wanted to team up cuz they were pussies? No they wanted to have the chane to win it all by themselves if they could help it
U think sad dams regime vs the un coalition fair? These dudes are pussies they don't wanna go one on one, they didn't stick with their hood, instead they hood hopped wanting to jump people like some scared bitches
Current and former NBA players said it themselves they get no respect doing it like that, none of those three can ever be labeled as the "best to ever play the game"
Fuck it y didn't bird, magic and drexler team up back in the day? Y? Because they were true champions they were loyal to their team and wanted to do it with waterer they had rather than do ditch their team and city cuz they were scared
Bird and magic saved the NBA from bankruptcy with their talent and competitive spirit and rivalry, I'd imagine there would be no NBA because bird and magic were some lil hoes and want the easy way out and win 7 rings, no competitiveness and no epic celtics vs lakers rivalry
God I don't need to be explaining this again,
Fuck it y not juz have Kobe, kg, Shaquille, Tracy mc Grady, and AI all in the same team in 02 or 03, would that still be competition? U wouldn't be able to double team any one, and this team hardly have to leave their men to help on defense.
I definitely think there should be rules against more than 2 legit franchise players teaming up, it kills competitiveness and it obviously hurts the small market teams, there wasn't a rule like this before because nobody had the vagina to do it, they were men period
U think people would give them a pass? Hell the fuck no, even t-Mac said he ain't joinin jelly bean till he wins one himself and I give him props for doin it like a man
rayallen0:
--- Quote from: LooN3y on November 05, 2011, 06:25:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on November 05, 2011, 03:56:23 AM ---ok...i understand not liking lebron for the fashion he left Cleveland but because he joined a team with Wade & Bosh? he took a pay cut because he wanted to win. Obviously he isnt hurting for cash but most players wont take a cut (anybody remember Spreewell?) I dont think any less of Kobe for playing with the most dominant Center in the last 30 years and winning 4 rings with him. i dont think less of Pippin for playing with MJ. I dont think less of Parker or Ginobili for playing with Duncan. and i damn sure think nothing less of Allen, Garnett, Rondo & Pierce. i think alot less of Lebron for the way he left Cleveland which was classless and as of right now you are correct if he retired today he wouldnt be mentioned by us as one of the greats, but he has atleast another 8-10 years in the NBA. much to early to be making predictions of what the next generation will think of him.
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I mentioned before I don't mind great old players that having only one thing missing in their resume which is a championship teaming up or joining a contender at least they had the heart do attempt it on their own,
Was ginobili a franchise player when he joined the spurs.? No he was a late 2nd draft pick, was Parker lol they wouldn't even be franchise players even if they had their own team if so very unlikey ? No, was pippin a franchise player ?
Was Kobe a franchise player or the number one pick when he got drafted ? Obviously not, the fact that Shaquille and Kobe wanted to do it on their own being the "man" lead to their split up
Lebron, bosh, and wade on the other hand, were being bitches scared and didn't even want to go on tryna do it by themselves, that's some pussy ass shit, that shows no competitive heart. U think when ray Allen, kg, and pierce were in their prime they wanted to team up cuz they were pussies? No they wanted to have the chane to win it all by themselves if they could help it
U think sad dams regime vs the un coalition fair? These dudes are pussies they don't wanna go one on one, they didn't stick with their hood, instead they hood hopped wanting to jump people like some scared bitches
Current and former NBA players said it themselves they get no respect doing it like that, none of those three can ever be labeled as the "best to ever play the game"
Fuck it y didn't bird, magic and drexler team up back in the day? Y? Because they were true champions they were loyal to their team and wanted to do it with waterer they had rather than do ditch their team and city cuz they were scared
Bird and magic saved the NBA from bankruptcy with their talent and competitive spirit and rivalry, I'd imagine there would be no NBA because bird and magic were some lil hoes and want the easy way out and win 7 rings, no competitiveness and no epic celtics vs lakers rivalry
God I don't need to be explaining this again,
Fuck it y not juz have Kobe, kg, Shaquille, Tracy mc Grady, and AI all in the same team in 02 or 03, would that still be competition? U wouldn't be able to double team any one, and this team hardly have to leave their men to help on defense.
I definitely think there should be rules against more than 2 legit franchise players teaming up, it kills competitiveness and it obviously hurts the small market teams, there wasn't a rule like this before because nobody had the vagina to do it, they were men period
U think people would give them a pass? Hell the fuck no, even t-Mac said he ain't joinin jelly bean till he wins one himself and I give him props for doin it like a man
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lol @ any of those players taking a pay cut and not the max.
Chamillitary Click:
This is why you fans are retarded. Basically, their "bitches" for choosing to win over getting paid tens of millions of dollars more. Something you same fans bitch about when people leave teams because they didn't get enough money.
& Kobe's ENTIRE legacy is because of Shaq. If Kobe never wins that threepeat, which he couldn't of done without Shaq & just has his recent rings, he's a "great player". They split up after they took the L. But you're acting like they weren't together for three rings. I'll speak like you're speaking, "If Kobe wasn't such a little fucking bitch, he would of left in '99, when he realized him & Shaq were dominate".
& LMFAO @ saying Bird & Magic. Like half of their respective rosters aren't in the Hall of Fame. Sure, they were the best players, but their supporting casts were incredible.
You're a hypocrite though. If LeBron said, "I'm taking my talents to my nigga Kobe in LA" & he wins, you'd be on his nuts saying he might be the greatest thing to ever touch the court. But he set himself up to win somewhere else & you're mad that he's more than likely gunna win.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 05, 2011, 11:59:10 AM ---This is why you fans are retarded. Basically, their "bitches" for choosing to win over getting paid tens of millions of dollars more. Something you same fans bitch about when people leave teams because they didn't get enough money.
& Kobe's ENTIRE legacy is because of Shaq. If Kobe never wins that threepeat, which he couldn't of done without Shaq & just has his recent rings, he's a "great player". They split up after they took the L. But you're acting like they weren't together for three rings. I'll speak like you're speaking, "If Kobe wasn't such a little fucking bitch, he would of left in '99, when he realized him & Shaq were dominate".
& LMFAO @ saying Bird & Magic. Like half of their respective rosters aren't in the Hall of Fame. Sure, they were the best players, but their supporting casts were incredible.
You're a hypocrite though. If LeBron said, "I'm taking my talents to my nigga Kobe in LA" & he wins, you'd be on his nuts saying he might be the greatest thing to ever touch the court. But he set himself up to win somewhere else & you're mad that he's more than likely gunna win.
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u dont get it, do u, fagboy? kobe never ran behind shaq to win him a championship, he was drafted to that team. when it was evident that kobe was great enough 2 lead a team 2 the promise land on his own, him and shaq started having problems and they eventually SPLIT. lebron doesnt have that spice in him, to want to feel like "the man", because deep down, he KNOWS he is incapable of leading the way...THATS WHY HE TUCKED HIS TAIL AND RAN BEHIND WADE N BOSH, TWO FRANCHISE PLAYERS. If he ran to LA to play behind Kobe, it would be the same exact story.
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