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So, the Raiders still make idiotic moves without Al Davis...

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Chamillitary Click:
I love this move. We saw the New York Giants in 2008. Squeaked into the playoffs, won some games & then went on to Superbowl Champs.

Carson gives them an amazing chance at that birth & gives them a pretty good chance at the division even.

OG Jaydc:
Lol this is a terrible move. Raiders aren't winning the superbowl regardless and now they give up another first round pick? Possibly two? So much for the raiders future.

Chamillitary Click:

--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on October 18, 2011, 07:07:29 PM ---Lol this is a terrible move. Raiders aren't winning the superbowl regardless and now they give up another first round pick? Possibly two? So much for the raiders future.

--- End quote ---

I feel the Raiders future is right now. They have a great ground game & a solid defense. It's all you need. Unless they were going 0-16, they weren't getting Luck this year, you need a QB, it's a QB league. Carson was a great QB a couple years ago, then that franchise fucked up.

The Raiders are kind of like a young Jets team, in my opinion. The year Rex Ryan ran the show, they had a good chance of winning the Superbowl. They have one this year, maybe next year & after that, it's over. It's kind of like the Pats, if their offense wasn't great & didn't have arguably the greatest QB ever, that ship would of sailed for them. The Steelers are a great example. Defensively they are getting old, their window closed. The Raiders window is just opening, in my opinion. They are still a few moves away, but I don't know if having those draft picks would of made that much of a difference. It's not problems a good free agent signing couldn't fix.

However, that's all assuming Carson comes back & plays up to par. I suppose kind of a silly assumption.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on October 18, 2011, 07:16:37 PM ---
However, that's all assuming Carson comes back & plays up to par. I suppose kind of a silly assumption.

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I expect him to take some time to get used to the system and his WRs, but Darren McFadden is going to be his best friend for the first 4 weeks. Luckily the Chargers have to travel to the Jets and Oakland gets to host KC so Palmer, if he starts right away gets an easy first win, and if he doesn't start he can watch the Raiders beat the Chiefs from the bench and then get a week off to learn more on the bye and them come back and host Denver to a probable win before having to prove himself in San Diego for week 10. I think the week 10 game will determine who is going to the playoffs and who is staying home.

OG Jaydc:
The jets had the best defense in the league. The raiders are a middle of the pack d with an awful secondary. They are a fringe playoff team at best, no shot at a superbowl. Their offense is one dimensional. This trade is just mind numbingly dumb. Your mortaging your future for a qb who's probably done. Carson hasn't been the same since his knee injury.

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