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Cain Velasquez
2 (28.6%)
Junior dos Santos
5 (71.4%)

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rayallen0

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Re: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2011, 09:16:36 PM »
Anybody see the Henderson vs Guida fight?

Excited to see how he fairs against Edgar. He looked great today.
 

Triple OG Rapsodie

Re: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2011, 09:52:29 PM »
Anybody see the Henderson vs Guida fight?

Excited to see how he fairs against Edgar. He looked great today.

That was a great fight. Honestly that's the fight Fox should've shown if they were expecting a longer fight. I don't know why they put two guys in there who rarely go past the first round. 
 

rayallen0

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Re: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2011, 12:33:22 PM »

Before I begin this write-up, a special shout out to Mike Goldberg and Joe Rogan who did their best to embarrass the UFC last night with their utter lack of preparation.  This is especially true of Mike Goldberg, who struggled with fighters’ names (especially Darren Uyenoyama) and was even more clueless than usual.  Joe was put in the unenviable position of having to overcompensate for his bumbling partner and wasn’t on top of things either, though with how hard he had to work, I can’t blame him.

I know he’s been around forever, but seriously, it’s time Mike Goldberg is gone from the UFC.  I’m not saying we have to cause him any harm or set him ablaze, as much as I might like that personally, but he’s an incompetent boob who hasn’t improved in more than 15 years of working with the UFC.  There are much better options out there and it’s high time the UFC starts looking for a more suitable replacement.

Heavyweight Title: Junior dos Santos d. (c) Cain Velasquez (KO – Round 1, 1:04)

So we have a new UFC Heavyweight Champion – that’s exciting, right?  In just more than a minute, Junior dos Santos punched Cain Velasquez very hard and became the very first undisputed Heavyweight Champion from Brazil.  Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira held the Interim Heavyweight Title for a time, but it’s certainly not the same.  Junior dos Santos has made history and did so on the biggest stage the UFC has ever seen.

JDS will now fight the winner of December’s absolutely epic clash between Alistair Overeem and Brock Lesnar, while Velasquez could possibly fight the loser of that contest.  A fight with Shane Carwin or the winner of Nogueira vs. Frank Mir would also be appropriate, but we’ll have to wait and see.

Lightweight: Ben Henderson d. Clay Guida (Unanimous Decision)

Boy, who would have guessed that this fight would be good?  Oh, you mean everyone did?  Yeah, it was fantastic and was potentially the fight of the year.  I thought Henderson clearly won the fight and fought a little safer than we normally see, but Guida was his typical frenetic ball of energy, pushing forward and trying to stay constantly active.  Henderson fought a good fight, landed some big strikes, and controlled Guida for the majority of the bout.

Henderson now gets a Lightweight Title shot against Frankie Edgar in Japan in what could be a very exciting fight.  Guida has some interesting options out there, including Gray Maynard, Joe Lauzon, or potentially the winner of Cerrone vs. Diaz depending on how long he wants to wait for a fight.

Featherweight: Dustin Poirier d. Pablo Garza (Submission – Round 2, 1:32)

Poirier looked pretty good and ended up winning with a sweet D’arce choke.  Yep.

Bantamweight: Darren Uyenoyama d. Norifumi Yamamoto (Unanimous Decision)

Look, I know that a lot of people love Kid Yamamoto.  For many years, he was one of the top featherweight fighters in Japan and beat most of the top fighters in K-1, Shooto, and Hero’s.  He had stellar power and was extremely fan friendly, so I understand if you’ll be mad at me for saying this…

Kid Yamamoto sucks.  He is not a good fighter anymore.  He’s not a top 25 bantamweight and he’s not even a top 50 bantamweight.  He hasn’t defeated a relevant fighter since December 2007 and is now 0-2 in the UFC.  I don’t know if Yamamoto’s game has been impacted by personal issues or injuries, but this is not the same fighter having gone 1-4 since his return to MMA in 2009.

This isn’t to take anything away from Darren Uyenoyama, who showed off some fantastic grappling and looked pretty great last night.  He came close to submitting Kid and was in control for the duration of this bout

Featherweight: Ricardo Lamas d. Cub Swanson (Submission – Round 2, 2:16)

Swanson was in control for most of his UFC debut and looked pretty impressive, but he ended up getting caught by Ricardo Lamas in an arm triangle choke.  Certainly a disappointing debut for Cub, while Lamas is now 2-0 in the UFC and 6-2 if you include his WEC stint.  Lamas could see a step up in competition based on this win.

Featherweight: Robert Peralta d. Mackens Semerzier (TKO – Round 3, 1:54)

First, this was one fight where Joe and Mike didn’t know what the fuck they were talking about.  They were talking about Robert Peralta like he’s some unproven prospect, when in actuality, this guy came into the fight on an eight fight winning streak which includes a win over Hiroyuki Takaya, a clear top 25 featherweight.  And you’re talking about a bum like Mackens Semerzier as if he’s a step up in competition?  Give me a fucking break.

This fight ended up being quite entertaining with Peralta largely getting the better of Semerzier.  An exchange in the third round led to a TKO victory for Peralta, but replays showed that Peralta was successful on the strength of an accidental headbutt!  How appropriate that on the eve of their first Fox card, a fighter wins with a technique mastered by Mark Coleman in the mid-1990s.  I don’t know if this win would possibly be overturned, so I’m anxious to see if anything happens there.  Still, Peralta looked good and needs to see some increased competition.  Tyson Griffin could be a good opponent.
 

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Re: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2011, 03:04:31 PM »
dos santos is going to fuck cain up  ;D
last 2 fights = decisions. Cain last 2 fights are KO's in the 1st round. idk about fucking him up.
you will see
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Re: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2011, 07:59:21 PM »
Agree about Mike Goldberg. The guy rarely gives us any useful information. He points out the obvious and a lot of time is incorrect. I laugh at those instances where he says something stupid and Joe Rogan corrects him. He also repeats himself several times through each fight. Like when pointing out that one fighter is a great wrestler from such and such university. He'll repeat that tidbit 5 times during the fight. I like Joe Rogan because he's very knowledgeable about what's going on, especially submissions. He knows when a submission is in deep or if the fighter is fine, and will say so. While Goldberg has no clue. Only thing about Rogan is he has a tendency to yell and be overzealous. Some of his post-fight interview questions are also unnecessary.

I can't see Velasquez fighting Carwin. Carwin has lost two fights in a row and needs a tune-up fight. Putting him up against the no 2 fighter in the world, when he's already lost to the guy Cain beat down is a bad idea. If he loses 3 in a row, that's grounds for him being canned, and the heavyweight division needs Carwin. He's the perfect gatekeeper.
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Re: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2011, 08:02:32 PM »
Mike Goldberg is good for two things: "HERE WE GO!" and "IT'S ALL OVER!"

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rayallen0

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Re: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2011, 09:42:55 PM »
Agree about Mike Goldberg. The guy rarely gives us any useful information. He points out the obvious and a lot of time is incorrect. I laugh at those instances where he says something stupid and Joe Rogan corrects him. He also repeats himself several times through each fight. Like when pointing out that one fighter is a great wrestler from such and such university. He'll repeat that tidbit 5 times during the fight. I like Joe Rogan because he's very knowledgeable about what's going on, especially submissions. He knows when a submission is in deep or if the fighter is fine, and will say so. While Goldberg has no clue. Only thing about Rogan is he has a tendency to yell and be overzealous. Some of his post-fight interview questions are also unnecessary.

I can't see Velasquez fighting Carwin. Carwin has lost two fights in a row and needs a tune-up fight. Putting him up against the no 2 fighter in the world, when he's already lost to the guy Cain beat down is a bad idea. If he loses 3 in a row, that's grounds for him being canned, and the heavyweight division needs Carwin. He's the perfect gatekeeper.
He lost to the #1 & #3 HW cmon! #2 HW he can have the perfect trifecta of losses!
 

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Re: Cain Velasquez vs. Junior Dos Santos
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2011, 10:33:44 PM »
I saw it on fox.  That was quick.  When JDS bombed on Cain, I was going...fool stay on him & defeat him.  Seconds later he did & won.