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Anybody Heard About Shaq's Biography?
Chamillitary Click:
I always said, if you're in the discussion with greatness, you're probably great.
Look how hard you're trying to deny him in Shaq in his prime, which is truly the GOAT of the position. It's a joke when you think about the situation. "Yeah, he's good, but he's not Shaq in his prime". Basically the equivalent of me saying "Yeah, Magic was great, but he wasn't MJ in his prime". I realize rings are the only knocks niggas have anymore.
LAUGHMYFUCKINGASSOFF @ Bynum in Orlando. If he was even healthy enough to play with all those touches & contact, no way could be do Dwight numbers.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on November 22, 2011, 01:30:22 PM ---I always said, if you're in the discussion with greatness, you're probably great.
Look how hard you're trying to deny him in Shaq in his prime, which is truly the GOAT of the position. It's a joke when you think about the situation. "Yeah, he's good, but he's not Shaq in his prime". Basically the equivalent of me saying "Yeah, Magic was great, but he wasn't MJ in his prime". I realize rings are the only knocks niggas have anymore.
LAUGHMYFUCKINGASSOFF @ Bynum in Orlando. If he was even healthy enough to play with all those touches & contact, no way could be do Dwight numbers.
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what are u talking about...magic and mj are in the same class. dwight and shaq ARE NOT. what dont u get about this, nutlicker?
bynum plays alongside pau gasol, which means he gets way less minutes, and barely any touches......he would average at least 20-10 on a team like the magic, with a more dependable post game. not really a stretch, considering he averaged 13.1-10.2-2.1 on 63.6% (better percentage than dwight ever had) on 8 shot attempts in 28 minutes before pau came along. dwight currently averages 13.4 attempts.....do the math and see if i'm off.
rayallen0:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on November 22, 2011, 01:25:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on November 22, 2011, 01:12:47 PM ---what a good defense. Howard is to much better than every other center. Totally unlike Wilt & Shaq. Oh wait.
"Shaq. C'mon now, Dwight will get there, but he doesn't have Shaq's history. Dwight's coming. Dwight's time is coming" - Kobe Bryant.
Who was Shaqs biggest competition at Center? Tim Duncan? who is originally a Power Forward. GTFO with your double standards.
Howard is an all around player who can be the greatest defensive player in the League and put up 20 points a game and lead the league in FG%.
I didn't see Kareem or Russell or other play so I'm not gonna speak on them. I also didn't really get heavy into basketball tell the 04-05 season before i watched a few games here & there with my dad but was usually the Sonics so i didn't really see Shaq in his prime. I have watched Howard and seen the dude dominate.
I swear you guys only care about scoring. No he isn't scoring 30 ppg. he is scoring 23 and shutting down every other player and gets more 2nd chance rebounds for his team than any other player. There is more to this game than scoring.
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well, there lies the problem...if u never seen shaq in his prime, then u wont understand why dwight isn't even close. but trust me when i tell u this, HE IS NOT. pretty much anyone in the basketball world will tell u the same (besides faggot ass cham, who is in here for no other reason but 2 lick nuts). now, i'm not writing dwight off completely, cuz he can still improve...but as of right now, he's simply nowhere near the level of those mentioned greats when they were in their prime.
also, u pretty much explained why he's considered "sooo good" nowadays...there are no more true centers in the league! he's playing in an era where the 2nd best center in the league behind him IS andrew bynum....so yea, of course he's gunna gobble up those rebounds when there is not much competition at the center spot. he is not playing against hakeem, ewing, mourning, etc...he is pretty much the only elite center in the league right now. even blake griffin and kevin love are gobbling up rebounds at the same rate as him, and better...doesnt make them rank amongst the great, it just means that competition amongst big men has diminished drastically.
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OK then you can't say Kobe is the greatest. You didn't see Magic or Wilt in his prime. You can't use that argument unless you have been watching since the start of the NBA.
Al Horford, Joakim Noah & Marc Gasol are better than Bynum for the record also.
The most dominant center of his generation like Shaq and broke Shaqs records yet doesnt belong in the same class? at 25 Howards #'s > Shaqs.
Chamillitary Click:
^LOL. *waits for NIK to say, "I've seen enough footage"*
Sccit:
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on November 22, 2011, 01:43:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on November 22, 2011, 01:25:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on November 22, 2011, 01:12:47 PM ---what a good defense. Howard is to much better than every other center. Totally unlike Wilt & Shaq. Oh wait.
"Shaq. C’mon now, Dwight will get there, but he doesn’t have Shaq’s history. Dwight’s coming. Dwight’s time is coming" - Kobe Bryant.
Who was Shaqs biggest competition at Center? Tim Duncan? who is originally a Power Forward. GTFO with your double standards.
Howard is an all around player who can be the greatest defensive player in the League and put up 20 points a game and lead the league in FG%.
I didn't see Kareem or Russell or other play so I'm not gonna speak on them. I also didn't really get heavy into basketball tell the 04-05 season before i watched a few games here & there with my dad but was usually the Sonics so i didn't really see Shaq in his prime. I have watched Howard and seen the dude dominate.
I swear you guys only care about scoring. No he isn't scoring 30 ppg. he is scoring 23 and shutting down every other player and gets more 2nd chance rebounds for his team than any other player. There is more to this game than scoring.
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well, there lies the problem...if u never seen shaq in his prime, then u wont understand why dwight isn't even close. but trust me when i tell u this, HE IS NOT. pretty much anyone in the basketball world will tell u the same (besides faggot ass cham, who is in here for no other reason but 2 lick nuts). now, i'm not writing dwight off completely, cuz he can still improve...but as of right now, he's simply nowhere near the level of those mentioned greats when they were in their prime.
also, u pretty much explained why he's considered "sooo good" nowadays...there are no more true centers in the league! he's playing in an era where the 2nd best center in the league behind him IS andrew bynum....so yea, of course he's gunna gobble up those rebounds when there is not much competition at the center spot. he is not playing against hakeem, ewing, mourning, etc...he is pretty much the only elite center in the league right now. even blake griffin and kevin love are gobbling up rebounds at the same rate as him, and better...doesnt make them rank amongst the great, it just means that competition amongst big men has diminished drastically.
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OK then you can't say Kobe is the greatest. You didn't see Magic or Wilt in his prime. You can't use that argument unless you have been watching since the start of the NBA.
Al Horford, Joakim Noah & Marc Gasol are better than Bynum for the record also.
The most dominant center of his generation like Shaq and broke Shaqs records yet doesnt belong in the same class? at 25 Howards #'s > Shaqs.
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LOL...i know more about Magic and his game than muthafuckaz who were watchin basketball in the 80s. trust me, bro, i have countless taped games of the showtime Lakers, as well as videos specifically about Magic and the Lakers in the 80s....LOTS of 'em. so yea, i know a whole lot about the nba in the 80s and the Lakers' competition, from sleepy floyd, to mark aguirre, to larry bird, to zeke, to whatever......studied it, homie. and Howard's numbers RIGHT NOW aint even as good as Shaq's when he was a rookie, so please stop with that nonsense.
Also....... Al Horford is a power forward, Joakim Noah is a defensive specialist, and Marc Gasol is not better than Bynum LOL.
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