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Fucking obviously Top Rank don't wanna see Pac fight Mayweather
rayallen0:
--- Quote from: O.G. Sikotic on November 13, 2011, 07:45:07 PM ---I don't know. With the exception of Marquez, Pacquiao has done better with opponents that Mayweather has fought as well. I think Pacquiao is finally wearing down a lil bit. He has been in more wars than Mayweather, that's for sure. Mayweather is notorious for fighting people when they're no longer in their prime. I think last night's fight brings the chance of the mega fight happening becoming better than ever.
And rayallen is on point: politics and not giving fans what the want is why boxing has been suffering lately. However, to call it dead is ridiculous. It's not dead, it is in a dark age though. Lack of solid feuds, lack of exciting new talent and politics is what's hurting it. The talent issue should improve in time (particularly in the heavyweight division). The fact that everyone seems to be a champion is an issue as well since it diminishes the importance of being a champion.
I'm a fan of both MMA and boxing. Both are unique art forms in their own right. It's kind of annoying when people try and compare the two and say one is better than the other. They both have their pros and cons.
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I'm a boxing fan but it is losing alot of its fan base to MMA because people are tired of paying $70 and only seeing one fight they care about. I am in no way saying you can't watch both I'm just saying people are strictly watching MMA now because of how people like Dana treats his fans.
Javier:
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on November 13, 2011, 01:03:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on November 13, 2011, 12:47:47 PM ---I'm talking about his skills. They're clearly a joke. He got exposed by a 38 year old boxer fighting in his 2nd fight at Welterweight. Again, people think Mayweather is afriad of his lack of skills? Please! People need to finally start talking shit about Arum, and realize he's the one that doesn't want Mayweather for Pac.
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he did bad in 1 fight so he has no skills? any man who beats Hatton in 2 rounds isnt a scrub. I know Mayweather is hip hops choice cuz he is black and cocky and 50 cents homie but can we please get people who respect the sport of boxing? Tyson lost fights does he suck? Ali did does he suck? 06-09 is an undeniable reign of greatness by him. Mayweather dominated from 98-07. No one here talks about boxers that arent manny or floyd.. Sergio Martínez is the #1 boxer in the world IMO but i don't think i've ever heard anybody talk about him. If i mentioned Glen Johnson or even fucking Felix Trinidad people would be clueless.
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That's exactly right, he has no boxing skills. This is the first time he faces an opponent with actual good movement since the 2nd Marquez fight. Not somebody that sits back in his defensive shell like Clottey, no footwork like who just came off a war with Margarito like Cotto, a stand still brawler like Margarito an already exposed Hatton, or a drained De La Hoya at 147 (weight that he hasn't been at since 2001). I give him props for Diaz and Mosley(even though Mosley didn't really move like he always does) though. Pac would have been exposed a long time ago by Mayweather, if Top Rank wasn't protecting him.
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on November 13, 2011, 09:40:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: O.G. Sikotic on November 13, 2011, 07:45:07 PM ---I don't know. With the exception of Marquez, Pacquiao has done better with opponents that Mayweather has fought as well. I think Pacquiao is finally wearing down a lil bit. He has been in more wars than Mayweather, that's for sure. Mayweather is notorious for fighting people when they're no longer in their prime. I think last night's fight brings the chance of the mega fight happening becoming better than ever.
And rayallen is on point: politics and not giving fans what the want is why boxing has been suffering lately. However, to call it dead is ridiculous. It's not dead, it is in a dark age though. Lack of solid feuds, lack of exciting new talent and politics is what's hurting it. The talent issue should improve in time (particularly in the heavyweight division). The fact that everyone seems to be a champion is an issue as well since it diminishes the importance of being a champion.
I'm a fan of both MMA and boxing. Both are unique art forms in their own right. It's kind of annoying when people try and compare the two and say one is better than the other. They both have their pros and cons.
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I'm a boxing fan but it is losing alot of its fan base to MMA because people are tired of paying $70 and only seeing one fight they care about. I am in no way saying you can't watch both I'm just saying people are strictly watching MMA now because of how people like Dana treats his fans.
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You can't compare boxing and mma. But you can compare the way they are being presented to the fans. And in that regard the UFC blows any boxing event out of the water. The best fights possible are constantly being set up. And they are usually surrounded by solid cards. We don't have to wonder for years who the best fighter in a division is. Its the person holding the only belt that matters. And if not, its the person about to take it from them.
Sikotic™:
This is true. The under card is usually a disaster for boxing events. The only decent undercard bout for Pacquiao/Marquez was the second fight with Alvarado fighting that Colombian dude with the jeri curl. Alvarado was getting shit on untilhis lip exploded and then he finally started whoopin ass.
Anybody got a feeling that UFC could be shooting itself int he foot by having so many events almost every week? They're gonna run outta match ups a few years down the road potentially. Then again, they have a monopoly on MMA and can bring any talent in (i.e. Overeem, Diaz brothers, etc.)
Triple OG Rapsodie:
I think its oversaturation at this point. I watch the fights every week, but I'm way less excited for an individual event, compared to how I would be if I had to wait a while to watch one.
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