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Shallow:

--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on November 22, 2011, 12:22:37 PM ---I mean would you like me to post up videos of the buffoonery that is the jets playcalling? How about a 3 rd and 6, where we go five wide and all five receivers run a 4 yard hook pattern. Or how about a 3rd down in your end in a tight game and a direct snap to the 3rd string rb is called(which results in a 20 yard loss). Watch the games. Sanchez is not the problem.

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Sanchez may not be as big a problem and Schotty Jr but his inability to hit wide open guys down the field does him in every year so far. It's almost silly how open some of his guys were in last years playoffs and how far off he over threw them. They should have destroyed Indy in that playoff game.

And I said it before and you tried to argue it, but with Peyton, and his offense, on your Jets you'd be going for a 3 peat right now. While Sanchez on that joke of a Colts team would still be leading the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.

OG Jaydc:
He's young. He started one year then jumped into starting in the NFL. Compare his numbers to guys like roethlisberger, Brady, Eli manning etc in their third seasons to his now. He's right their with them.Every qb misses throws, especially young ones. If this was year nine I'd be worried. But hell look at Alex smith, he's flourishing under new coaching. Now I'm not saying he's going to be those players but he's way too young to just throw overboard for a rental vet. He's the franchise qb and will be for a while. The Peyton thing is moot. You can play hypotheticals on teams until the cows come home. Nothing is certain you can't just say insert this player here and they will do this. Way too many variables involved.Anything can happen.

And like I've said before the colts team is built around Peyton, even the defense. You can stick any other qb in that team and they would be trash. The team is built for him and him alone. And that's just a very poor way to build a team. Peyton also likes to take every single practice snap, which is why they've never been able to develop a back up.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Jaydc is back on November 22, 2011, 08:40:30 PM ---
And like I've said before the colts team is built around Peyton, even the defense. You can stick any other qb in that team and they would be trash. The team is built for him and him alone. And that's just a very poor way to build a team. Peyton also likes to take every single practice snap, which is why they've never been able to develop a back up.

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That's one theory. My theory is that the team is simply built like shit and he is so good that it covers up all the garbage that team ever was. But the players on that team aren't the real problem. The coaches and GMs are. They don't coach to beat a team, they coach to not beat yourself. And they only have that one Superbowl because two teams, the Pats in the second half of the AFC game, and the Bears went far out of their way to beat themselves. Had the Colts played to beat the Saints they would have stuck with the man to man that was giving Drew a lot of trouble and they would have wrapped up that game by the end of the first half.

Most teams of NFL players are only really as bad as last year's Niners. The roster hasn't changed, but the record is night and day.

Peyton brings coaching and talent as a single player, and adding him and him alone, and letting him run his offense would have made the Jets beat whoever they would have played in the 09 game and then beat the Saints. They would have handed it to the Steelers last year easy to, but the Packers may still have won it all. You also could have bulked up your D even more because Peyton doesn't need high contract kill players around him. Garcon, Collie, and Tamme would be enough for the Jets to win those big games with the Rex and the D on the other side.

Hypothetical my ass. It's like saying if the Jazz had MJ they still would have lost to the Bulls in the finals. And don't think for a second that Rex, who is giving Brunell some first team snaps in practice, isn't thinking about trying to get the Colts to let go of Peyton for a first round pick. Then trading Sanchez for a second round pick to the highest bidder (maybe Washington or Seattle). Because even if Peyt only has two good years left; back to back rings is a nice way of going out.

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