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50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying: The Official Cliche Joint
Cliche:
didn't see any other threads... so here goes :\
blargh... well here it is in all its... ahem... glory.
1. Intro
2. What Up Gangsta
3. Patiently Waiting ft. Eminem
4. Many Men (Wish Death)
5. In Da Club
6. High All The Time
7. Heat
8. If I Cant
9. Blood Hound ft. Young Buc
10. Back Down
11. Pimp
12. Like My Style ft. Tony Yayo
13. Poor Lil Rich
14. 21 Questions ft. Nate Dogg
15. Don't Push Me ft. Eminem & Lloyd Banks
16. Gotta Get
17. Wanksta
18. U Not Like Me
19. Life's On The Line
intro is ... there, nothing bad or good.
"What Up Gangsta" starts us off. The beat is solid, if unspectacular. The hook is really annoying... as is the repetition at the end... rhymes themselves are okay... nothing special... beat actually gets better as it fades out. "Patiently Waiting" hmm... judging from these 2 joints they basically took an eminem album and let 50 rhyme on the beats. The beat is good though. Don't think it fits 50 very well, but basically anyone could sound nice on this... The hook is... eh... inoffensive, but not good. Eminem... wait for it... murders him on his own **** ... couldn't resist. 50 doesn't say anything that anyone else couldn't say better. "Made Men" has potential... but the drum track seems patched on... the rest of the beat is really nice... has a dope atmosphere to it... the drums just kinda ruin it for me. 50 compares himself to Ali in this song... which is so laughable on so many levels I'm not even going to get into it... The hook is decent... 50 actually has something to say on this track, which is a nice change. Still don't care much for the way he says it, but he gets points for effort.
"In The Club" is a perfect example of an amazing beat carrying a song. What does 50 bring to this joint that Knocturnal, Hittman, Eminem or anyone else in Dre's camp couldn't have done as well? "High All The Time" showcases some good production that fits 50's voice very well... the drums are still lazy as **** (basically a signature of Eminem's beats) but everything else about the beat is well done. Song is nothing new for content at all, but gets points for asthetic appeal.
"Heat" zzzzz... could there be a more cookie-cutter "gangsta" joint? although there's probably more use of gun sound effects on this track than anywhere i can remember... the beat is decent enough, although the gun sounds are annoying as ****... once again 50 brings nothing to the table lyrically, or subject matter wise. if you're gonna rhyme about "the hood" at least do it in a way that's interesting or original. This isn't 1988 and you're not Eazy E. "If I Cant" i'm sure there's a point to this song... i just can't figure out what it is... 50 just babbles about gangsta ****, as he does for a bunch of this album. the beat is okay... hook is decent... but what's really there as a song?
"Blood Hound" here's the requisite bounce track. .... apparently 50's gonna shoot a bunch of people. Welcome to 1992. Seriously, I'm guessing the appeal of this stuff is that all the kids jocking it now were too young to be into NWA/Cube/Spice 1/DPG back in the day... Young Buc is lame....
"Back Down" good production... without the horrible drums this time... generally a good song, despite the fact that the subject matter is once again, the same tired ****.
"Pimp" mmm... okay. The beat is ridiculously lame... ditto the hook. say something different for the love... or at least say it in an interesting way... "Like My Style" continues the shift in sounds... beat isn't bad... but the hook is crap. 50 says... well... nothing. he's gonna score with some chicks though, which is good to know.
"Poor Lil Rich" i don't like the beat at all... 50 sounds the same as usual on this song... in that he's bad, but not offensively so like Ja Rule. He's just kind of there... replace him with someone else and the song would probably be better, although the beat on this is weak. "21 Questions" has a nice little sample that reminds me of spanish guitar... not sure if thats what it is... Nate sounds okay... but not one of his better performances... not bad though... the concept of the song is somewhat interesting, and 50 manages to maintain my interest for the most part... pretty good song, or at the very least, best of the lot. Hook not good though.
"Don't Push Me" Eminem & Lloyd Banks guest... the beat is okay... the drums feel thrown on... which is too bad because the backbone of the track is dope... 50 and Lloyd Banks are inoffensive, but by no means dope... Banks is the better of the two, he rates as high as solid. Maybe I'm just grateful for a break from 50 Marbles-In-Mouth.. who actually manages to unslur/mumble for a fair chunk of this album.
"Gotta Get" the beat is eh... it picks up later in the song... 50 is well.. there. Not bad, but not good either. Another song where he's secondary to the beat... i dunno if this is what people call "charisma" in an mc... but to me he's just hanging around on the track... not a bad song, but no more than average.
"Wanksta" oh lord... i hated this song when it dropped... it didn't get any better... the beat is a throwaway... 50 is 50. I could care less at this point...
"U Not Like Me" beat is good, 50 is better on here than on most of the new joints. good song.
"Life On The Line" people always point to this song as one of his dope joints... its certainly better than basically anything on the album... he actually sounds energetic on here... this is probably a better indication of his potential than his album... too bad he couldn't follow through.
In the end, this album is lacking in a lot of areas. Some good banging beats for the club don't make an album dope... 50 says nothing for about 95 percent of this cd. It's all bustin guns, mackin hoes and generally talking **** about nothing... if this was 1991 this album would be up to par in terms of subject matter and maybe even lyrically, but this is 2003, i expect a lot more than people rehashing the same thing Snoop Doggy Dogg or Ice Cube or NWA did better 12-15 years ago. 50's hype will probably help him push units, but it also pushed expectations for this album way too high. You've got an inexperienced producer (Eminem) plus a guy who's never put out a major release (50) sitting down and churning out an album in a few months. It was probably doomed from the start. 50 isn't the worst rhymer on the planet, but he's mediocre at best now. Which is too bad because he showed potential earlier in his work to be a solid MC. Hopefully he can work back to that, but if this album sells well, i doubt it.
All in all, the production was okay, not great. The MCing was below average and the album felt very thrown together to me.
4.5/10.
smartass:
yeah the album is fucking horrible.
hopefully all the dickriding will end now.
S.G.V.:
i take cliches advice often..and hes been right everytime...ill have to check this to see...but i gotta feelin cliches right
King Tech Quadafi:
--- Quote from: S.G.V. Hates Ignorant Idiots on January 28, 2003, 05:55:48 PM ---i take cliches advice often..and hes been right everytime...ill have to check this to see...but i gotta feelin cliches right
--- End quote ---
teecee:
Havent heard the album, but i don think it will be ALL THAT like most people do....however, its gotta be at least 5/10 man....and to say Em is an inexperienced producer is laughable now, cuz he has produced some incredible tracks lately (Lose Yourself, THe Cross, Run Rabbit Run come to mind)....and Wanksta is actually a dope beat (althought 50 still sucks on it)..ima go get this albu and holler......peace
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