if 2pac recorded an album while in jail how succesfull would it have been?

[Quadruple OG]

The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews  still sold well.  That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.

Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.

Being all over the radio and MTV (when they actually played videos) and having singles go platinum isn't what I would really consider being underground. I'd consider 1995 more of a bounce-back year when they moved back closer to the forefront of Hip-Hop. Obviously when Dogg Food dropped and 2pac was bailed it changed the game.

we still did well.... fugees sold 6 million, nas 2 million, foxy, kim, jay z, tribe and de la, LL..... i bumped the shit outta death threatz, str.8 off tha streetz,dogg food, and the villain in black also.

Most of the EC stuff you mentioned was 96, but I missed LL's Mr. Smith album. That was another one that came out in 95. "Hey Lover" was another huge hit and won a grammy in '97.

[Black Excellence]

The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews  still sold well.  That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.

Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.

Being all over the radio and MTV (when they actually played videos) and having singles go platinum isn't what I would really consider being underground. I'd consider 1995 more of a bounce-back year when they moved back closer to the forefront of Hip-Hop. Obviously when Dogg Food dropped and 2pac was bailed it changed the game.

we still did well.... fugees sold 6 million, nas 2 million, foxy, kim, jay z, tribe and de la, LL..... i bumped the shit outta death threatz, str.8 off tha streetz,dogg food, and the villain in black also.

Most of the EC stuff you mentioned was 96, but I missed LL's Mr. Smith album. That was another one that came out in 95. "Hey Lover" was another huge hit and won a grammy in '97.

please believe it !!!!!!!!   the east always held our own and we always will !!!!!!!! this just show that the muthafuckas who bumpin they dick suckers about the east wasn't blastin' off heavy don't know shit about hip hop at all and was introduced to rap by 106 and park. do some research first midwestrider. this shit ain't a game wit me... hip hop is more than just our culture it's our way of life.

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.


he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.

petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop .  i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .

If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.

The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews  still sold well.  That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.

Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.

are you serious ? every wu member who put out a solo in 95 sold well.

That poster is either delusional or semi-retarded to 100% believe that 1995 was a terrible year for East Coast Rap.

he better go peep some mag covers from '95.

[Blasphemy (A)]

damn u bitches get mad butthurt, Illmatic only went Gold, and that was in 1996 2 years after its release in 94.

I'm not saying they released shit albums, or they putting up todays shitty numbers, I'm saying when they got released despite the critical acclaim those releases got, each 1 of em managed to fall short of expectations. I mean shit Illmatic is constantly cited as the Bench Mark album to lyricism as Dr. Dres The Chronic was to production, but didn't even get Gold until 2 years?

Wu Tangs 1993 Release didn't go plat until 95, despite the fact it got Rave reviews across the board. That's all I'm saying. 1996 and beyond is when the artist started really selling again

[OG Jaydc]

Saying the east wasnt shit in 95 is as dumb as saying 2pac was becoming a relic and a running joke in 95.

[Quadruple OG]

Wu Tangs 1993 Release didn't go plat until 95, despite the fact it got Rave reviews across the board. That's all I'm saying. 1996 and beyond is when the artist started really selling again

Kinda proved my point with this. Sales of East Coast albums picked up in '95 because of how popular Biggie became. You're making a logical argument which is respectable. You're not making a dumbass statement that's flat out wrong like that other moron was doing.

Saying the east wasnt shit in 95 is as dumb as saying 2pac was becoming a relic and a running joke in 95.

Pretty much. People forget he was the first artist to have the #1 album in the country while behind bars. A lot of revisionist history when it comes to 2pac on this board.