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Everyone in the NFL needs to shut up about Williams
Lunatic:
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 06, 2012, 04:53:00 PM ---I don't know. I can imagine saying "knock this guys head off". Or, let's hit Crabtee and see if he's for real or not.
But telling them to purposely try to tear a guys ACL. That's bullshit.
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Agreed.
Nothing wrong with inspiring physical football, but once you start calling for ACL tears, that's too far.
Williams is a great coach, he should always be known as a great coach.
But the guy clearly has some screws loose and he'll never ever coach again.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 07, 2012, 06:35:31 AM ---
And I'll say this, what James Harrison did to Colt McCoy was worse, light years worse, than targeting a guys bad ACL. A completely defenseless QB with no chance of attempting to run and a clear pass thrown and Harrison went helmet to helmet like a truck. If a guy on my team that I was coaching did that I'd send I'd eject him from the game before the refs even threw the flag. All class Mike Tomlin didn't say boo.
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True. Tomlin was a bad example.
But my primary example was a guy like Shottenhiemer. And you added another good example with Dungy. In fact, Dungy came out of Marty's coaching tree in Kansas City. So did Bill Cowher and even Mike McCarthy of the Packers. Shottenhiemers coaching tree would not be involved in disgusting tactics such as these; but I can't say the same about the Parcells coaching tree. We've already seen Bellicheck with the Spygate and now Sean Payton with this newest scandel.
I disagree with you that Marty and Dungy could of won more games by playing dirty. Partly why their players put their heart and soul into the game is because they believed in Marty, and they believed in what Marty said. They played with heart and character. Marty always preached dignity and character. That's the kind of coach I would put myself on the line for and give my all.. not the scumbags over at New Orleans.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 07, 2012, 09:51:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 07, 2012, 06:35:31 AM ---
And I'll say this, what James Harrison did to Colt McCoy was worse, light years worse, than targeting a guys bad ACL. A completely defenseless QB with no chance of attempting to run and a clear pass thrown and Harrison went helmet to helmet like a truck. If a guy on my team that I was coaching did that I'd send I'd eject him from the game before the refs even threw the flag. All class Mike Tomlin didn't say boo.
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True. Tomlin was a bad example.
But my primary example was a guy like Shottenhiemer. And you added another good example with Dungy. In fact, Dungy came out of Marty's coaching tree in Kansas City. So did Bill Cowher and even Mike McCarthy of the Packers. Shottenhiemers coaching tree would not be involved in disgusting tactics such as these; but I can't say the same about the Parcells coaching tree. We've already seen Bellicheck with the Spygate and now Sean Payton with this newest scandel.
I disagree with you that Marty and Dungy could of won more games by playing dirty. Partly why their players put their heart and soul into the game is because they believed in Marty, and they believed in what Marty said. They played with heart and character. Marty always preached dignity and character. That's the kind of coach I would put myself on the line for and give my all.. not the scumbags over at New Orleans.
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I agree to an extent, but the results speak for themselves. Historically the teams that go for the kill do better in regards to winning it all. Most of the best defensive players in NFL history were dirty players.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 07, 2012, 10:29:59 PM ---
I agree to an extent, but the results speak for themselves. Historically the teams that go for the kill do better in regards to winning it all. Most of the best defensive players in NFL history were dirty players.
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hmmm.. it's hard to say. I just grew up watching Marty coach football here in KC throughout the 90's. This type of thing disgusts me really.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 07, 2012, 11:25:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 07, 2012, 10:29:59 PM ---
I agree to an extent, but the results speak for themselves. Historically the teams that go for the kill do better in regards to winning it all. Most of the best defensive players in NFL history were dirty players.
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hmmm.. it's hard to say. I just grew up watching Marty coach football here in KC throughout the 90's. This type of thing disgusts me really.
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Just look at where the rankings of the defensive players in all the top 100 lists. The only real "nice guy" that gets up there is Reggie White. The rest is usually anyone from Ray Nitschke to Joe Greene, to Jack Lambert, to Dick Butkus. And Lawrence Taylor gets top billing most of the time. These guys were animals, and never would have lasted a Tony Dungy interview.
Now personally I may not be fond of the over heated styles of some coaches, but playing Marty-ball in big games usually doesn't work me. My philosphy with dealing with highpowered offenses is sometimes it's better to take a chance at a big play and give up a TD in 1 minute rather than make sure the big play doesn't happen and give up a TD in 9 minutes.
Marty-Ball should get more credit for "The Drive" than Elway should have ever gotten. You have a team down by 7 you manage to unthinkably get a kick-off to land at the 2 yard line, you have the weather and a rowdy bunch of of a mob in the stands blaring, you don't play it safe. You go for the throat. Look at the first play, Elway us just sitting there in the endzone in the pocket and you'd think they were only rushing 3, I'm pretty sure it was 4 but it should have been 6 or 7. two blitzers at least; one off the corner on the blind side and one more up the middle with a second delayed blitz option up the middle if need be. Even if you don't get the sack you make Elway feel the haste. I don't think he was ever under any real pressure. That one sack looks ore like Elway getting careless after getting too comfortable.
No chance in hell does Elway get off The Drive against Parcells Giants, and the next game where they took a thrashing by them he never even came close.
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