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Who should get the title shot against JDS to replace Overeem?
Triple OG Rapsodie:
Fuck you Overeem, you just killed my interest in a title fight. Mir's the only one who deserves the shot. And I'd expect him to get KOed quickly.
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on April 09, 2012, 08:55:22 PM ---Well he is leaving Gilbert Melendez in Strikeforce...which is a weird ass choice considering Lightweight is one of the weakest divisions in the UFC.
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You're crazy, lightweight is probably the most stacked division right now. Bendo has the belt and Edgar, Diaz, Pettis, Maynard, Miller, Guida are all in the mix. I could see any of those fighters holding the belt, and there's a bunch of other fighters on the roster who could be contending in the next year with a few more wins. Barboza, Dunham, Cerrone, Ferguson, etc. Melendez would be good for one interesting title fight, other than that he doesn't add anything to the division.
Nutty:
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on April 09, 2012, 08:55:22 PM ---Mark Hunt may get it because he has a lot of fans asking for it and dana does listen to the fans.
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Would be cool if he got a shot.... dude's a kiwi too.
rayallen0:
--- Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on April 09, 2012, 11:12:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on April 09, 2012, 08:55:22 PM ---Well he is leaving Gilbert Melendez in Strikeforce...which is a weird ass choice considering Lightweight is one of the weakest divisions in the UFC.
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You're crazy, lightweight is probably the most stacked division right now. Bendo has the belt and Edgar, Diaz, Pettis, Maynard, Miller, Guida are all in the mix. I could see any of those fighters holding the belt, and there's a bunch of other fighters on the roster who could be contending in the next year with a few more wins. Barboza, Dunham, Cerrone, Ferguson, etc. Melendez would be good for one interesting title fight, other than that he doesn't add anything to the division.
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let me rephrase it, 2 of the best LW fighters are out of the UFC (Aoki & Melendez) both of those guys could contend for a belt.
lets look at the divisions
HW: JDS, Cain, Mir, Overeem, Werdum, Carwin, Big Nog & Big Foot Silva all making the division competitive and Cormier & Barnett will come over soon to make it even more stacked.
LHW: Jones, Rashad, Shogun, Hendo, Machida, Phil Davis, Bader, Rampage, Gustafsson, Lil Nog, etc...all the great LHWs are in the UFC.
MW: Silva, Sonnen, Belfort, Munoz, Bisping, Okami, Weidman, Stann, & Palhares. The only fighter out of the UFC i could see contend for the belt would be Hector Lombard.
WW: MacDonald, Condit, GSP, Ellenberger, Koscheck, Diaz, Hendricks, Fitch, Kampmann & Shields are all in the fight for the #1 spot.
LW: already talked about it.
FW: Aldo, Mendes, Poirier, Hioki, Nunes, Sung Jung, Hominick, Koch. 2 fighters that need to be in the UFC asap are Pat Curran & Marlon Sandro.
BW: Cruz, Faber, Jorgensen, Bowles, Torres, Pickett, Barao, McDonald, Wineland, & Mizugaki. stacked all the way through.
FW: McCall, Benavidez, Mighty Mouse, Urushitani, & Dodson. This is the actual weakest division as it was just made. Some fighters i think will be coming to the UFC soon. Jussier da Silva, Mamoru Yamaguchi, Dustin Ortiz, Shinichi Kojima, & Darrell Montague.
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on April 10, 2012, 11:19:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on April 09, 2012, 11:12:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: rayallen0 on April 09, 2012, 08:55:22 PM ---Well he is leaving Gilbert Melendez in Strikeforce...which is a weird ass choice considering Lightweight is one of the weakest divisions in the UFC.
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You're crazy, lightweight is probably the most stacked division right now. Bendo has the belt and Edgar, Diaz, Pettis, Maynard, Miller, Guida are all in the mix. I could see any of those fighters holding the belt, and there's a bunch of other fighters on the roster who could be contending in the next year with a few more wins. Barboza, Dunham, Cerrone, Ferguson, etc. Melendez would be good for one interesting title fight, other than that he doesn't add anything to the division.
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let me rephrase it, 2 of the best LW fighters are out of the UFC (Aoki & Melendez) both of those guys could contend for a belt.
lets look at the divisions
HW: JDS, Cain, Mir, Overeem, Werdum, Carwin, Big Nog & Big Foot Silva all making the division competitive and Cormier & Barnett will come over soon to make it even more stacked.
LHW: Jones, Rashad, Shogun, Hendo, Machida, Phil Davis, Bader, Rampage, Gustafsson, Lil Nog, etc...all the great LHWs are in the UFC.
MW: Silva, Sonnen, Belfort, Munoz, Bisping, Okami, Weidman, Stann, & Palhares. The only fighter out of the UFC i could see contend for the belt would be Hector Lombard.
WW: MacDonald, Condit, GSP, Ellenberger, Koscheck, Diaz, Hendricks, Fitch, Kampmann & Shields are all in the fight for the #1 spot.
LW: already talked about it.
FW: Aldo, Mendes, Poirier, Hioki, Nunes, Sung Jung, Hominick, Koch. 2 fighters that need to be in the UFC asap are Pat Curran & Marlon Sandro.
BW: Cruz, Faber, Jorgensen, Bowles, Torres, Pickett, Barao, McDonald, Wineland, & Mizugaki. stacked all the way through.
FW: McCall, Benavidez, Mighty Mouse, Urushitani, & Dodson. This is the actual weakest division as it was just made. Some fighters i think will be coming to the UFC soon. Jussier da Silva, Mamoru Yamaguchi, Dustin Ortiz, Shinichi Kojima, & Darrell Montague.
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So because 2 fighters have inflated records fighting outside the UFC makes the UFC's lightweight division weak? I think not. You basically proved my point for me by listing less contenders than I did. And a lot of those are stretching it.
HW: always has been an incredibly weak division. There is a huge gap between the top 3 and everyone else, to the point there are no interesting fights for JDS except a rematch with the guy he just KOed. That said, almost all the best heavyweights are in the UFC. There just aren't very many big men who are great fighters.
LHW: How many of those fighters you listed do you see as serious contenders for the belt? Pretty much only Rashad has a chance and he's still an underdog.
MW: Again, who in that list is a serious contender for a belt? You know your division is weak when Bisping is one of the top fighters in it. No one there is a serious threat after a rematch with Sonnen, unless Hector Lombard or Alexander Shlemenko come over and make a splash.
WW: This division is only interesting because GSP is injured. There are fighters outside the UFC who could contend with Carlos Condit. Ben Askren would lay n pray all day for the win.
FW: Who is serious competition for Aldo in the UFC? The best challenges are outside with Curran, Sandro or Pitbull.
BW: You know you don't have a stacked division when you're mentioning Mizugaki and Wineland. Makovsky and Dantas are easily top 10 material. The lighter weights in general have more good fighters outside the UFC.
I think I proved my point. Lightweight is by far the most competitive division right now and has as much talent as any other division.
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