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Like it or not, Wayne has put in work and has vastly improved from when he first came out. If you ask the average Hip-Hop fan to name 5-10 songs from Mack 10, not including stuff he did with WSCG, they probably wouldn't be able to do so.
Quote from: Reality Check on May 03, 2012, 05:48:52 AMLike it or not, Wayne has put in work and has vastly improved from when he first came out. If you ask the average Hip-Hop fan to name 5-10 songs from Mack 10, not including stuff he did with WSCG, they probably wouldn't be able to do so.I definitely acknowledge the fact that Lil Wayne has stepped up his game lyrically while also display an ability to make hit songs with greater appeal than before along with his work ethic. But being one of the hottest in the game doesn't make you a hip-hop legend.His problem that will likely never be fixed (unless he continues rapping well into his 30s) is that he hasn't made any significant songs that either will stand the test of time and be classic forever or have meaning and capture the mind-state of a generation and/or specific time period. All of the hip-hop greats have done that at least once. With all of the records sold and hit songs that I hear from Lil Wayne, they just don't stick. Lollipop was a huge single that fueled platinum sales, but do you hear it anymore? Can you imagine it playing in clubs in five years? In Da Club is almost ten years old, and it still gets clubs going crazy when it starts playing. Not even Weezy's best shit has that kind of relevance. Even Puffy who has multiplatinum albums and $500 million to his name doesn't have shit that still gets play.Oh yeah, and there's also that false flagging that he does. Ketchup ass motherfucker.
Quote from: DeeezNuuuts83 on May 03, 2012, 01:11:18 PMQuote from: Reality Check on May 03, 2012, 05:48:52 AMLike it or not, Wayne has put in work and has vastly improved from when he first came out. If you ask the average Hip-Hop fan to name 5-10 songs from Mack 10, not including stuff he did with WSCG, they probably wouldn't be able to do so.I definitely acknowledge the fact that Lil Wayne has stepped up his game lyrically while also display an ability to make hit songs with greater appeal than before along with his work ethic. But being one of the hottest in the game doesn't make you a hip-hop legend.His problem that will likely never be fixed (unless he continues rapping well into his 30s) is that he hasn't made any significant songs that either will stand the test of time and be classic forever or have meaning and capture the mind-state of a generation and/or specific time period. All of the hip-hop greats have done that at least once. With all of the records sold and hit songs that I hear from Lil Wayne, they just don't stick. Lollipop was a huge single that fueled platinum sales, but do you hear it anymore? Can you imagine it playing in clubs in five years? In Da Club is almost ten years old, and it still gets clubs going crazy when it starts playing. Not even Weezy's best shit has that kind of relevance. Even Puffy who has multiplatinum albums and $500 million to his name doesn't have shit that still gets play.Oh yeah, and there's also that false flagging that he does. Ketchup ass motherfucker.I never said anything about Weezy being a legend. I sure as hell don't view him as a legend. His solo work is a lot more well known than Mack 10 in the grand scheme of things though. That much is undeniable.
Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 28, 2012, 10:42:16 AMQuote from: Maudizzle on April 28, 2012, 09:08:18 AMThat Cash Money album is one of his best... His album with Da Hood was good, so was his album with Glasses Malone.I don't know what you're talking about. Dude's never dropped one wack album and fillers are hard to find on his projects. Mack 10 might be the most consistent rapper on the West Coast.All I needed to hear was that Mack 10 was on Cash Money's label. That was enough for me to say he fell off and sold out. Then when I caught his video once the song was trash and the video was garbage. That was more than enough for me. You just admitted you hated it without even listening to it. Isn't that like racism Brian?Ironically, Dre produced his lead single for that album "Hate in your eyes". So you hated that collab I guess.And for the record, that is a great album. Manny Fresh dropped some serious heat on there. Mack 10 didn't sell out at all with that move.
Quote from: Maudizzle on April 28, 2012, 09:08:18 AMThat Cash Money album is one of his best... His album with Da Hood was good, so was his album with Glasses Malone.I don't know what you're talking about. Dude's never dropped one wack album and fillers are hard to find on his projects. Mack 10 might be the most consistent rapper on the West Coast.All I needed to hear was that Mack 10 was on Cash Money's label. That was enough for me to say he fell off and sold out. Then when I caught his video once the song was trash and the video was garbage. That was more than enough for me.
That Cash Money album is one of his best... His album with Da Hood was good, so was his album with Glasses Malone.I don't know what you're talking about. Dude's never dropped one wack album and fillers are hard to find on his projects. Mack 10 might be the most consistent rapper on the West Coast.
Quote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 03, 2012, 12:58:05 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 03, 2012, 12:20:43 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 03, 2012, 06:49:20 AMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on May 02, 2012, 09:42:32 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 02, 2012, 08:38:10 PMBgz true story was Wayne's first album...it came out in 93 or 94 I believeso he came out before Mack 10?yesnaah....lil wayne came out in 95, when he was 12. mack 10's debut also came out in 95, but it was earlier in the year.that album was underground in new orleans before it got any regional distribution. that album was completed before 95 but mack10 was on a song of ice cubes in 93 i think so its all fair game for discussion.Mack 10 was on Ice Cube's "Bootleg and B-Sides" album that dropped in '94. Quote from: NIKCC on May 03, 2012, 12:21:50 PMQuote from: Reality Check on May 03, 2012, 05:48:52 AMQuote from: LostAngel on May 03, 2012, 03:39:13 AMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10Dude you should take some therapies or somethin'...He came 15 years ago, OK, that's kool, and tell me why he didn't was such a big name 10 years ago? You knew about him? He was known on "World level"? Nah... He came with "Kill Hip-Hop songs" and he get known. Fuck him.Quote from: OG Classic Material !!!! on May 02, 2012, 06:54:50 PMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10hell no.Like it or not, Wayne has put in work and has vastly improved from when he first came out. If you ask the average Hip-Hop fan to name 5-10 songs from Mack 10, not including stuff he did with WSCG, they probably wouldn't be able to do so. i disagree...1999 lil wayne>>>>>current lil wayneI'm not a Weezy fan, but dude now is better than he was at 15. Personally I like the Squad Mixtapes and Carter II over his most recent stuff.
Quote from: NIKCC on May 03, 2012, 12:20:43 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 03, 2012, 06:49:20 AMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on May 02, 2012, 09:42:32 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 02, 2012, 08:38:10 PMBgz true story was Wayne's first album...it came out in 93 or 94 I believeso he came out before Mack 10?yesnaah....lil wayne came out in 95, when he was 12. mack 10's debut also came out in 95, but it was earlier in the year.that album was underground in new orleans before it got any regional distribution. that album was completed before 95 but mack10 was on a song of ice cubes in 93 i think so its all fair game for discussion.
Quote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 03, 2012, 06:49:20 AMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on May 02, 2012, 09:42:32 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 02, 2012, 08:38:10 PMBgz true story was Wayne's first album...it came out in 93 or 94 I believeso he came out before Mack 10?yesnaah....lil wayne came out in 95, when he was 12. mack 10's debut also came out in 95, but it was earlier in the year.
Quote from: BG Rapsodie on May 02, 2012, 09:42:32 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 02, 2012, 08:38:10 PMBgz true story was Wayne's first album...it came out in 93 or 94 I believeso he came out before Mack 10?yes
Quote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 02, 2012, 08:38:10 PMBgz true story was Wayne's first album...it came out in 93 or 94 I believeso he came out before Mack 10?
Bgz true story was Wayne's first album...it came out in 93 or 94 I believe
Quote from: Reality Check on May 03, 2012, 05:48:52 AMQuote from: LostAngel on May 03, 2012, 03:39:13 AMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10Dude you should take some therapies or somethin'...He came 15 years ago, OK, that's kool, and tell me why he didn't was such a big name 10 years ago? You knew about him? He was known on "World level"? Nah... He came with "Kill Hip-Hop songs" and he get known. Fuck him.Quote from: OG Classic Material !!!! on May 02, 2012, 06:54:50 PMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10hell no.Like it or not, Wayne has put in work and has vastly improved from when he first came out. If you ask the average Hip-Hop fan to name 5-10 songs from Mack 10, not including stuff he did with WSCG, they probably wouldn't be able to do so. i disagree...1999 lil wayne>>>>>current lil wayne
Quote from: LostAngel on May 03, 2012, 03:39:13 AMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10Dude you should take some therapies or somethin'...He came 15 years ago, OK, that's kool, and tell me why he didn't was such a big name 10 years ago? You knew about him? He was known on "World level"? Nah... He came with "Kill Hip-Hop songs" and he get known. Fuck him.Quote from: OG Classic Material !!!! on May 02, 2012, 06:54:50 PMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10hell no.Like it or not, Wayne has put in work and has vastly improved from when he first came out. If you ask the average Hip-Hop fan to name 5-10 songs from Mack 10, not including stuff he did with WSCG, they probably wouldn't be able to do so.
Quote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10Dude you should take some therapies or somethin'...He came 15 years ago, OK, that's kool, and tell me why he didn't was such a big name 10 years ago? You knew about him? He was known on "World level"? Nah... He came with "Kill Hip-Hop songs" and he get known. Fuck him.
using Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10
Quote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10hell no.
Quote from: Reality Check on May 03, 2012, 01:05:24 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 03, 2012, 12:58:05 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 03, 2012, 12:20:43 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 03, 2012, 06:49:20 AMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on May 02, 2012, 09:42:32 PMQuote from: PETEY the GREAT on May 02, 2012, 08:38:10 PMBgz true story was Wayne's first album...it came out in 93 or 94 I believeso he came out before Mack 10?yesnaah....lil wayne came out in 95, when he was 12. mack 10's debut also came out in 95, but it was earlier in the year.that album was underground in new orleans before it got any regional distribution. that album was completed before 95 but mack10 was on a song of ice cubes in 93 i think so its all fair game for discussion.Mack 10 was on Ice Cube's "Bootleg and B-Sides" album that dropped in '94. Quote from: NIKCC on May 03, 2012, 12:21:50 PMQuote from: Reality Check on May 03, 2012, 05:48:52 AMQuote from: LostAngel on May 03, 2012, 03:39:13 AMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10Dude you should take some therapies or somethin'...He came 15 years ago, OK, that's kool, and tell me why he didn't was such a big name 10 years ago? You knew about him? He was known on "World level"? Nah... He came with "Kill Hip-Hop songs" and he get known. Fuck him.Quote from: OG Classic Material !!!! on May 02, 2012, 06:54:50 PMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 02, 2012, 06:37:58 PMusing Lil Wayne as an example of a "todays rapper" is not goin to work,he is a "legend/veteran" in his own right, more so than local westcoast-hoo banger Mack 10hell no.Like it or not, Wayne has put in work and has vastly improved from when he first came out. If you ask the average Hip-Hop fan to name 5-10 songs from Mack 10, not including stuff he did with WSCG, they probably wouldn't be able to do so. i disagree...1999 lil wayne>>>>>current lil wayneI'm not a Weezy fan, but dude now is better than he was at 15. Personally I like the Squad Mixtapes and Carter II over his most recent stuff. okay i was a year off so shoot me lol i dont use google or wikipedia when im talking my shit im going off memory and experience of working in record stores and being a rabid hip hop fan during this era
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on April 30, 2012, 05:36:23 PMQuote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 28, 2012, 10:42:16 AMQuote from: Maudizzle on April 28, 2012, 09:08:18 AMThat Cash Money album is one of his best... His album with Da Hood was good, so was his album with Glasses Malone.I don't know what you're talking about. Dude's never dropped one wack album and fillers are hard to find on his projects. Mack 10 might be the most consistent rapper on the West Coast.All I needed to hear was that Mack 10 was on Cash Money's label. That was enough for me to say he fell off and sold out. Then when I caught his video once the song was trash and the video was garbage. That was more than enough for me. You just admitted you hated it without even listening to it. Isn't that like racism Brian?Ironically, Dre produced his lead single for that album "Hate in your eyes". So you hated that collab I guess.And for the record, that is a great album. Manny Fresh dropped some serious heat on there. Mack 10 didn't sell out at all with that move.bump for bri
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on May 03, 2012, 10:45:35 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on April 30, 2012, 05:36:23 PMQuote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 28, 2012, 10:42:16 AMQuote from: Maudizzle on April 28, 2012, 09:08:18 AMThat Cash Money album is one of his best... His album with Da Hood was good, so was his album with Glasses Malone.I don't know what you're talking about. Dude's never dropped one wack album and fillers are hard to find on his projects. Mack 10 might be the most consistent rapper on the West Coast.All I needed to hear was that Mack 10 was on Cash Money's label. That was enough for me to say he fell off and sold out. Then when I caught his video once the song was trash and the video was garbage. That was more than enough for me. You just admitted you hated it without even listening to it. Isn't that like racism Brian?Ironically, Dre produced his lead single for that album "Hate in your eyes". So you hated that collab I guess.And for the record, that is a great album. Manny Fresh dropped some serious heat on there. Mack 10 didn't sell out at all with that move.bump for briLOL.. at the idea of "Manny Fresh produced heat". I wouldn't know because I'm not a bitch. I don't go to clubs and shake my ass to bullshit rap music. When I want to listen to rap music I want to hear that real shit, not that punk shit. I want to a mutherfucker bringin that hard core West Coast gangsta shit. That man's man shit.Manny Fresh makes music for bitches, and since your more of a bitch than a bitch I can see why you like it. 80% of the fans of Cash money are women, and the rest are men who follow women. I ain't ever followed a bitch in my life.
When I want to listen to rap music I want to hear that real shit, not that punk shit. I want to a mutherfucker bringin that hard core West Coast gangsta shit. That man's man shit.Manny Fresh makes music for bitches, and since your more of a bitch than a bitch I can see why you like it. 80% of the fans of Cash money are women, and the rest are men who follow women. I ain't ever followed a bitch in my life.
The blood gang embraces Tupac as a member even if YOU dont.
Manny Fresh made west coast gangsta shit:http://www.youtube.com/v/gcvWQat7a98
you sound pretty fuckin tough, especially for someone who still hasnt gotten over their first fuckin girlfriend and entered a fuckin arrainged marriage hahaha
i know where u comin from, but theres lotsa manny fresh beats that bumped... of course, he's not on the level of a quik or dre, but he was never a sub-par producer, like swizz beats or some shit.