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i dunno...u sayin hip-hop is "garbage", but u postin on a hip-hop message board. i get what ur tryna say, but to call an entire genre "garbage" is more over-the-top than the point infinite is tryna make, considering you post here, as well as other hip-hop message boards...it's like saying basketball is garbage and claiming it isn't comparable to soccer with all of its history, yet you're posting on insidehoops.com...doesn't make sense. i think a lot of people say hip-hop is "garbage" because they're just repeating the sentiments of older generations. in reality, there was great music before hip-hop...but there is great music within hip-hop as well. hip-hop gave people a voice, whereas most other genres of music is more about instrumentation/melody. not really comparable.
Quote from: Reality Check on April 28, 2012, 11:07:12 AMKurupt fell off a lot more than Mack 10.
Kurupt fell off a lot more than Mack 10.
Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 28, 2012, 06:52:39 PMQuote from: Kaka B. Ware on April 28, 2012, 06:09:01 PMlmao at u dont want to let garbage enter your system yet your on a westcoast gangster rap music forum for 24 hours a day.. if u havent noticed 85 % of the subject matter in gangster rap is garbage..no matter what the labelThe gangsta rap I listened to from the 90's was far from garbage. Gangsta rap was sort of like a modern day version of tribalism. Back Ancient Africa and the Middle East, members of a tribe would have different titles and job duties. For example you would have your warrior wing of the tribe, you would have your hunter gatherers, and so on. One vital segment of the tribe were the poets. The poets would glorify the virtues of the tribe. The were the voice of the tribe and they communicated their aspirations to the outside world. Gangsta rappers were the same way. They were great poets and artists reppin where they were from and their virtues in heroism, courage, and valor. Anyone who knows Snoop knows that Snoop has a good heart. Snoop is a righteous man. 2pac is a righteous man. The gangsta rap I was listening to growing up was mostly Death Row and it's affiliates. The weren't perfect, but for the most part it was positive.no, it was garbage...even i can admit that.its just it was the soundtrack to your youth so you cherish it like uncle rico.songs like brenda had a baby etc dont hold a candle to songe like sam cookes change gon come....but unforuently in the 80 - 90s is when all music took a turn for the worst so a song like that is the closest thing this generation has to actual humaniatrian artists and shit like stevie wonder curtis mayfield etc. its a shame that to cats like brian this is the closest they will ever have to being truly inspired by music is listening to tupac rhyme enemy with hennesee over old isley samples.
Quote from: Kaka B. Ware on April 28, 2012, 06:09:01 PMlmao at u dont want to let garbage enter your system yet your on a westcoast gangster rap music forum for 24 hours a day.. if u havent noticed 85 % of the subject matter in gangster rap is garbage..no matter what the labelThe gangsta rap I listened to from the 90's was far from garbage. Gangsta rap was sort of like a modern day version of tribalism. Back Ancient Africa and the Middle East, members of a tribe would have different titles and job duties. For example you would have your warrior wing of the tribe, you would have your hunter gatherers, and so on. One vital segment of the tribe were the poets. The poets would glorify the virtues of the tribe. The were the voice of the tribe and they communicated their aspirations to the outside world. Gangsta rappers were the same way. They were great poets and artists reppin where they were from and their virtues in heroism, courage, and valor. Anyone who knows Snoop knows that Snoop has a good heart. Snoop is a righteous man. 2pac is a righteous man. The gangsta rap I was listening to growing up was mostly Death Row and it's affiliates. The weren't perfect, but for the most part it was positive.
lmao at u dont want to let garbage enter your system yet your on a westcoast gangster rap music forum for 24 hours a day.. if u havent noticed 85 % of the subject matter in gangster rap is garbage..no matter what the label
Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 11:37:07 AMi dunno...u sayin hip-hop is "garbage", but u postin on a hip-hop message board. i get what ur tryna say, but to call an entire genre "garbage" is more over-the-top than the point infinite is tryna make, considering you post here, as well as other hip-hop message boards...it's like saying basketball is garbage and claiming it isn't comparable to soccer with all of its history, yet you're posting on insidehoops.com...doesn't make sense. i think a lot of people say hip-hop is "garbage" because they're just repeating the sentiments of older generations. in reality, there was great music before hip-hop...but there is great music within hip-hop as well. hip-hop gave people a voice, whereas most other genres of music is more about instrumentation/melody. not really comparable. nik dont be a hypocrite...you say all the time this board is full of assholes nerds and fags but yet you cling to it like it was life support. but you made some other decent points in this thread...
when i say its garbage i mean the exploitation and commercialization of it...making it a parody of itself.artists hearts were in the right place they were working with the tools they were given. America promoted sterotypes and shushed conscious artists forcing a guy like tupac who very well may have rather recorded a whole album frull of brenda had a baby type records into making radio friendly pop diddys and pop fluff like alot of the shit on aeomthe media fueling bi costal wars shit like that. it cheapens the whole movement and as i get older and more mature id rather distance myself from it sometimes.#truthhurts
no hes a great example let me tell you why.becasue he made brenda had a baby type records but as rap expanded you wouldnt even know it...they promoted his alize thug passion sipping image. they promoted the west vs east thing. they werent interested in his humanitarian ideas they wanted to know what was prison like how much do you hate biggie right now? shit like that.after he died they brought those records back to the forefront to romanticize his posthumous image after the east/west bullshit war
Your arguement totally failed when you compared Mack 10 signing to Cash Money with Nas signing to Def Jam. Def Jam is the pioneering label of hip-hop. You could not find a more respectable label that has done more for representing hiphop culture than Def Jam. Since the 80's with Kurtis Blow and Russel Simmons doing their thing to make hip-hop what it was I have nothing but love and repect for Russel Simmons.Cash Money has done everything to destroy and ruin hip-hop and no label has done more to kill hip_hop than Cash Money has.The two labels are like night and days.
I agree with Petey. Just listen to Whats ya Phone # and imagine the kind of songs Pac could have been making instead. There's a reason Changes was an unreleased studio session instead of coming out while he was alive. You might be nodding your head to 2Pac saying nothing over G Funk beats, but I know he could've done a lot more.
Quote from: Reality Check on April 28, 2012, 05:15:40 PMQuote from: Reality Check on April 28, 2012, 11:07:12 AMKurupt fell off a lot more than Mack 10.