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Quote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 17, 2012, 01:44:52 PMi think Snoop has done liek 10 songs wit Quik in his whole career,while BC has like 80 songs wit himComparison is a nonsense - Battlecat is one of Snoops 'in house' dudes....he probably sleeps on Snoops couch most of the time.
i think Snoop has done liek 10 songs wit Quik in his whole career,while BC has like 80 songs wit him
yea man,he was never a go-to-go guy in teh indsutry. not even on the west. his beats ahve never been hot or interestin like that, during his era (teh gangstarap-era), he was standin in teh shadows of other go-to-west-producers like QDIII, Pooh, Dre, and Battlecatrememebr his last shot at the MTV-audience? teh song he did for Jay-Z.. taht was probly his last chance, n he failed bigtime. nonoe fucked wit hm since tehn (except the usual suspects like 2nd II None and El DeBarge)hes respectable in his field as an arranger, producer, yea sure - but he doesnt have any classic hiphop-songs on his repertoïre, like say - the Dilla's, Primo's, Dre's, Neptunes' or Rock's. and he hasnt changed teh game. he is overrated indeedso he doesnt deserve the praise he gets imo. hes just a nerdy RogerTrotuman fan who had a hit in like 91 ("Tonite"), and were lucky enuff to work on some songs wit Eazy, Pac, Rakim and Jigga in his career
Only by hardcore 90s west coast rap fans. He's always been overlooked as a hip hop producer. His biggest problem is he wastes his best production on himself. He's not Kanye, he doesn't have the charisma on the mic to carry an album to greatness.
u guys r readin into it.im not really focusin on his musicality. im focusin on his name in teh indsutry,, why does he deserve to be hailed as this perfect/ultimate/legendary hiphop-producer?what does his C.V. look like? classic song-productions for other artists? does he have that? did he change the lane of the game like the Primo's, Nepteuns, Dre's and Dillas did?no, not by faaaardude and his "beats" have never been hot or interestin like that. he never even had love on the west, like Battelcat. everybody fucked wit BC. everyoneQuik - had his own familytree. 2nd II None, Mausberg, Hi-C, El DeBArge.. and tahts basicaly ithow come Snoop never co-signed him?u can count all these classic West Coast-songs BC have done for all the acts on the west (u can't do that wit Quik)not to say taht BC is better than Quik (cuz tahts subjective, i personly prefer BC-beats over Quik-beats myself), but he always had more work than himQuiks last chance was Jay-Z and Ludacris,, and that was like 10 years ago. and if he cant even get any work on the west, hes nothin. smh, Bun B charged him like 100000$ for a verse, and Quik coughed it up. does a "legend" do that?
Quote from: BG Rapsodie on May 17, 2012, 01:52:05 PMOnly by hardcore 90s west coast rap fans. He's always been overlooked as a hip hop producer. His biggest problem is he wastes his best production on himself. He's not Kanye, he doesn't have the charisma on the mic to carry an album to greatness.exactly, i mean he does have some charisma, but not on some super rap star level. i think westcoast fans overrate him but just a bit, and rap fans in general criminally sleep on him. i remember talking to a friend a long time ago, a beatmaker, very much into 90's eastcoast hip hop, and i was praising Quik and he was like "yeah quik's alrite but it's not like his shit is very elaborate", lol i didn't have the courage to break it down for him.Quik is highly respected in the industry, and has more clout than Battlecat, that's for sure. He's like the E-40 of production, ignored by most fans, respected by the legends. Dre, 2pac, B.I.G., Pete Rock, Erick Sermon, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Mariah Carey, Roger Troutman, Debarge have all either collab'd or praised Quik's skills. Legends like Erick Sermon have expressed the desire to do collabo albums with Quik. Now Battlecat has had his fair share of success, and I like him a lot but he's mostly known for being a niche producer, with those gangsta claps that he did for Snoop, E-40 & Dub-C in the late 90's, mid 00's, nothing else really. Quik's legacy is much bigger. About him failing big time with his Jay-Z beat, i don't think so, i think it worked out well and this song has been well received. just getting that kind of placement is a form of recognition. You'll never hear BC Powda on a Jay-Z album, that's for sure. I do believe Quik should have branched out after Rhythm-al-ism like Stan Sheppard wanted him to do. This dude is way bigger than rap, he could have brought his touch to r'n'b and other genres.
Quote from: bouli77 on May 17, 2012, 02:40:33 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on May 17, 2012, 01:52:05 PMOnly by hardcore 90s west coast rap fans. He's always been overlooked as a hip hop producer. His biggest problem is he wastes his best production on himself. He's not Kanye, he doesn't have the charisma on the mic to carry an album to greatness.exactly, i mean he does have some charisma, but not on some super rap star level. i think westcoast fans overrate him but just a bit, and rap fans in general criminally sleep on him. i remember talking to a friend a long time ago, a beatmaker, very much into 90's eastcoast hip hop, and i was praising Quik and he was like "yeah quik's alrite but it's not like his shit is very elaborate", lol i didn't have the courage to break it down for him.Quik is highly respected in the industry, and has more clout than Battlecat, that's for sure. He's like the E-40 of production, ignored by most fans, respected by the legends. Dre, 2pac, B.I.G., Pete Rock, Erick Sermon, Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Mariah Carey, Roger Troutman, Debarge have all either collab'd or praised Quik's skills. Legends like Erick Sermon have expressed the desire to do collabo albums with Quik. Now Battlecat has had his fair share of success, and I like him a lot but he's mostly known for being a niche producer, with those gangsta claps that he did for Snoop, E-40 & Dub-C in the late 90's, mid 00's, nothing else really. Quik's legacy is much bigger. About him failing big time with his Jay-Z beat, i don't think so, i think it worked out well and this song has been well received. just getting that kind of placement is a form of recognition. You'll never hear BC Powda on a Jay-Z album, that's for sure. I do believe Quik should have branched out after Rhythm-al-ism like Stan Sheppard wanted him to do. This dude is way bigger than rap, he could have brought his touch to r'n'b and other genres.lol @ "clout"Battlecat has worked wit Dr Dre, Eminem, Talib Kweli, Lil' Kim, Rapahel Saadiq, probably 100 songs for Snoop etc etctheres no bigger difference between BC and Quiks production-c.v.compare their discog-catalogues
^why are au goin back and forth wit me like u feel insulted or some shit, kid? like i said, BC's and Quiks catalgoe are not taht much different. BC wasnt even active like that when Pac died and Eazy died.BC would surely have produced for thsoe acts as well, if he was around their camps back then
^why are au goin back and forth wit me like u feel insulted or some shit, kid? like i said, BC's and Quiks catalgoe are not taht much different. BC wasnt even active like that when Pac died and Eazy died.BC would surely have produced for thsoe acts as well, if he was around back then