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Quote from: horchatax3 on May 17, 2012, 05:38:24 PMQuote from: bouli77 on May 17, 2012, 03:07:50 PMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 17, 2012, 02:59:54 PM^why are au goin back and forth wit me like u feel insulted or some shit, kid? like i said, BC's and Quiks catalgoe are not taht much different. BC wasnt even active like that when Pac died and Eazy died.BC would surely have produced for thsoe acts as well, if he was around back then he was producing the Bangin On Wax albumsHe only produced the tittle track.steady dippin'?
Quote from: bouli77 on May 17, 2012, 03:07:50 PMQuote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 17, 2012, 02:59:54 PM^why are au goin back and forth wit me like u feel insulted or some shit, kid? like i said, BC's and Quiks catalgoe are not taht much different. BC wasnt even active like that when Pac died and Eazy died.BC would surely have produced for thsoe acts as well, if he was around back then he was producing the Bangin On Wax albumsHe only produced the tittle track.
Quote from: OG Mike Madsen (your mother's boytoy) on May 17, 2012, 02:59:54 PM^why are au goin back and forth wit me like u feel insulted or some shit, kid? like i said, BC's and Quiks catalgoe are not taht much different. BC wasnt even active like that when Pac died and Eazy died.BC would surely have produced for thsoe acts as well, if he was around back then he was producing the Bangin On Wax albums
^why are au goin back and forth wit me like u feel insulted or some shit, kid? like i said, BC's and Quiks catalgoe are not taht much different. BC wasnt even active like that when Pac died and Eazy died.BC would surely have produced for thsoe acts as well, if he was around back then
If you ask me, people get confused regarding Quik because of this:DJ Quik is great at making his type of beats, untouched in hiphop perhaps. But that's basically what he's limited to: He's a master at making smooth, melodious beats but beyond that he's simply decent. For example, his harder beats like, say, 'Fandango' or 'Justify My Thug', usually work (at least for me) but they are not on a different level. What's more, DJ Quik does not make tailormade beats for artists. Instead, the artist has to adjust to the type of beat DJ Quik makes. With the overall greats, this quality is there. A Dr. Dre can adjust his sound to the artist and make it work even if it is outside of his normal work. Compare Dr. Dre's goofy production for Eminem to the generally weird and ergetic beats he gave Busta Rhymes to the thumping beats he gave Xzibit to the smooth beats he gave Snoop. A truly great producer uses his artist as an instrument and adjusts his other instruments to them. That's not to say Dr. Dre has not done his fair share of throw aways or passed beats along to different artists but...when he puts effort into it, his beats will fit the artist they accompany. The same is true of say, Timbaland or The Neptunes. They don't just deliver musical product, they create YOUR musical product. DJ Quik on the other hand, makes his beats first and foremost for himself and if other artists want to use them, he'll consider it but they'll have to play between the fences in his musical playfield. He's not going to relocate those fences. I don't think it's a coincedence that, to me at least, Suga Free is DJ Quik's muse: They fit each other's styles perfectly but neither is very versatile, despite Quik's efforts to prove otherwise.As for Battlecat, I'd say he's more like DJ Quik in this regard: Great at what he does, but limited to a small playfield. I'd actually rate Fredwreck over both overall.
I could and should have expected that using Dr. Dre was to open up a can of worms and the mouths of his detractors. Perhaps your sentiments of Dr. Dre taking credit for other people's work are justified, but they amount to rumour, gossip and exaggaration at this point. You might be right about them, but they're speculations and from often unreliable sources too. In this case, I'd rather believe Snoop who can be very harsh about people near to him yet praises Dre as a producer, than the likes of Big Hutch or 2Pac who were both out to tarnish or even destroy Dre's career at the time. Also, take note of the fact that Quik himself regrets doing 'U ain't fresh!' and acknowledges Dr. Dre as a producer superior to himself.You're right that Dr. Dre is perhaps not much of a beatmaker...but then that would not really disprove my point that as a producer and mixer, which is his forte, he is very good, simple and plain. What Dr. Dre's critics about his alleged taking-credit-habit generally ignore or fail to realise is that he brushes up other people's beats and that this is just as much bringing greatness to a record is as making a skeleton beat. You're right that, generally, Dr. Dre would not create beats from scratch whereas Quik does, but Dre's final touch lifts beats up to the level of productions. Quik does make beats from scratch and yes, he does add his own producer's touch...but, to me at least, he's more limited in the latter department than Dr. Dre is. And please, don't assume that beatmaking equals producing because it does not.As for the suggestions that DJ Quik would have shone more if he hadn't stuck too his crew...that might be true, but that also amounts to speculation. We can't judge him or anyone on things they might have created but didn't. I have to admit I don't like how this thread has now turned into a Dr. Dre is better/DJ Quik is better contest, but there you are. Any takers for or takes on my 'DJ Quik should have joined Dogghouse' thought?
DJ Quik is the most talented artist in hip-hop period.