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--- Quote from: Mietek23 on June 05, 2012, 02:40:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 05, 2012, 12:50:57 PM ---
Range doesn't only include three point field goals.. It also includes shots right inside the three point line. Jordan's signature shot was from about 15-17 feet, while Kobe's signature pull up is from right inside the three point line. And Jordan was not bigger than Kobe lol, he only has bigger hands. Let's not forget, Kobe has great post skills, as well, and probably even better footwork than Jordan.

And again, Kobe has never had the luxury of playing with a facilitator/point forward like Pippen on the perimeter. Do you realize that the best point guard Kobe has played with was Derek fisher, and the best small forward was an out-of-prime glen rice. Not exactly the best players to help create shots for u, if u know what I mean. Pippen was a playmaker. Kobe never had the opportunity to play with someone like Pippen. How u fail to realize this is not surprising, but still weakens your credibility.

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I've said in my first post in this topic QUOTE: "Yes, Kobe don't got a player like Pippen around him..." - your just too blind defending Kobe all the time to notice this ::)

You are so one-sided in this "debate", it's getting more and more ridiculous. Your pointing out that Phil Jackson said "Kobe has better basketball skills than Jordan" as a favor to your arguement, yet you fail to mention he said in that same interview QUOTE: "There are some things that Michael Jordan had, that Kobe Bryant dosen't have.  HE HAS BIGGER BODY, HE IS STRONGER".

So saying "he only has bigger hands" is delusional at least.

Never in my post did I've said Kobe Bryany isin't a great post player, neither he does not have great post skills. He IS and He DOES, as I mentioned before. But, and I've said this on many occasions now - Michael was a better post-up player, because he was able to hold his position in the post due to his higher athleticism. Kobe on the other hand is often forced by his defenders outside and can't control his post-up position as efficient as MJ.

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then if u know that kobe has never played with a facilitator like pippen, then why do u keep pointing out how jordan got shots easier?...well, shit, OF COURSE he's gunna get better looks when he played alongside the greatest point forward of all time.

as for phil jackson, like i said, he flip-flops on the answer all time time...never has he flat out said "jordan>kobe" or "kobe>jordan", which just goes to show that there IS a comparison. if there wasn't, phil woulda came out a long time ago and said it. but thats not what u hear...instead, u get quotes from him saying "kobe had the better shot and offensive skills, but jordan was stronger" or what not. cuz he doesn't wanna come straight out and put one over the other...thats the whole point of what im gettin at. fact of the matter is, both have different advantages in certain areas. as far as individual accolades go, it will be impossible for kobe to ever match jordan. as far as pure basketball skill goes, kobe has already, at the very least, matched jordan. if kobe wins more rings, there will undeniably be an everlasting debate on GOAT. shit, i aint faultin u if u say magic johnson or lary bird. to me, GOAT is all subjective and can go many ways...but for those who say Kobe aint in the discussion, you're only foolin urself.

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