Author Topic: Do Eiht and Spice get their true props in this hip hop game?  (Read 582 times)

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Re: Do Eiht and Spice get their true props in this hip hop game?
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2012, 02:41:07 PM »
Mike how can you be a big fan and basically say they didnt contribute anything to the game
Spice especially was quite diverse with his lyricism and flow. Peep him on the track Hard to kill where he murders Meth and Jealous got me trapped where he runs rings around Pac.
The Guy was a rappers rapper and thats why you will find a bunch of rappers giving him his due
 Spice between 92-96 was one of the top emcees in the game and he should be mentioned as a hall of famer



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 na man, i disagree
they are veterans tho.

and yes, i can be a bonafide fan without suckin up to an artist.
Eiht and Spice are not in the hiphop- hall of fame, as game-changers/legends.
i dont see em on the same level as the Bigs, Rakims, Cool Js, EPMDs, ATCQs, Native Tounges etc etc. and i don't think they will ever be hailed as such historicaly.
they were just gangsta-rappers of the day, who made some temporarily  mainstream-noise roughly 20 years ago, back in the day when the "menace ii society"-hype was crackin.
and they didnt bring gangsta-rap to the mainstream-forefront, the NWA-family tree came before em and paved teh way.
and eastcoast-rappers like Das EFX rocked the rapping-style that Spice 1 had down to a T, before him, so he didnt invent shit

"legend" gets thrown around way too much these days. im all for solidarity and stanism, but pretty please ,ease up a bit
« Last Edit: May 26, 2012, 02:45:51 PM by OG Mike Madsen »


 

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Re: Do Eiht and Spice get their true props in this hip hop game?
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2012, 03:14:54 PM »
Mike how can you be a big fan and basically say they didnt contribute anything to the game
Spice especially was quite diverse with his lyricism and flow. Peep him on the track Hard to kill where he murders Meth and Jealous got me trapped where he runs rings around Pac.
The Guy was a rappers rapper and thats why you will find a bunch of rappers giving him his due
 Spice between 92-96 was one of the top emcees in the game and he should be mentioned as a hall of famer



:)
 na man, i disagree
they are veterans tho.

and yes, i can be a bonafide fan without suckin up to an artist.
Eiht and Spice are not in the hiphop- hall of fame, as game-changers/legends.
i dont see em on the same level as the Bigs, Rakims, Cool Js, EPMDs, ATCQs, Native Tounges etc etc. and i don't think they will ever be hailed as such historicaly.
they were just gangsta-rappers of the day, who made some temporarily  mainstream-noise roughly 20 years ago, back in the day when the "menace ii society"-hype was crackin.
and they didnt bring gangsta-rap to the mainstream-forefront, the NWA-family tree came before em and paved teh way.
and eastcoast-rappers like Das EFX rocked the rapping-style that Spice 1 had down to a T, before him, so he didnt invent shit

"legend" gets thrown around way too much these days. im all for solidarity and stanism, but pretty please ,ease up a bit

spice-1 and eiht were to gangsta rap what rakim, cool j, etc. were to east coast rap.... they are legends in their own respect.

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Re: Do Eiht and Spice get their true props in this hip hop game?
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2012, 05:11:33 PM »
Mike how can you be a big fan and basically say they didnt contribute anything to the game
Spice especially was quite diverse with his lyricism and flow. Peep him on the track Hard to kill where he murders Meth and Jealous got me trapped where he runs rings around Pac.
The Guy was a rappers rapper and thats why you will find a bunch of rappers giving him his due
 Spice between 92-96 was one of the top emcees in the game and he should be mentioned as a hall of famer



:)
 na man, i disagree
they are veterans tho.

and yes, i can be a bonafide fan without suckin up to an artist.
Eiht and Spice are not in the hiphop- hall of fame, as game-changers/legends.
i dont see em on the same level as the Bigs, Rakims, Cool Js, EPMDs, ATCQs, Native Tounges etc etc. and i don't think they will ever be hailed as such historicaly.
they were just gangsta-rappers of the day, who made some temporarily  mainstream-noise roughly 20 years ago, back in the day when the "menace ii society"-hype was crackin.
and they didnt bring gangsta-rap to the mainstream-forefront, the NWA-family tree came before em and paved teh way.
and eastcoast-rappers like Das EFX rocked the rapping-style that Spice 1 had down to a T, before him, so he didnt invent shit

"legend" gets thrown around way too much these days. im all for solidarity and stanism, but pretty please ,ease up a bit

spice-1 and eiht were to gangsta rap what rakim, cool j, etc. were to east coast rap.... they are legends in their own respect.
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Re: Do Eiht and Spice get their true props in this hip hop game?
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2012, 06:58:33 PM »
Lol really? Cool J and Rakim?? Two of the true pioneers of this thing we love called hip hop. You'd do better comparing Rakim and Cool J to Cube and Snoop, that's the level they're on.

You've got your own fandom twisted, they're more on the level of an AZ or Killer Mike, shit maybe even Twista. These guys don't have songs or albums that would make a certified top 50 classics list, maybe to a west coast fan, but not to an average head.

I'm with Mike 100% on this.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2012, 07:01:12 PM by dubsmith_nz »
 

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Re: Do Eiht and Spice get their true props in this hip hop game?
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2012, 09:05:01 PM »
Lol really? Cool J and Rakim?? Two of the true pioneers of this thing we love called hip hop. You'd do better comparing Rakim and Cool J to Cube and Snoop, that's the level they're on.

You've got your own fandom twisted, they're more on the level of an AZ or Killer Mike, shit maybe even Twista. These guys don't have songs or albums that would make a certified top 50 classics list, maybe to a west coast fan, but not to an average head.

I'm with Mike 100% on this.


az and killer mike didn't inspire nearly as many rappers as spice-1 or mc eiht. i don't think you realize that a whole generation of people grew up on that music...nobody in the game really grew up on az or killer mike, or was majorly influenced by them. ur right that snoop and ice cube are more comparable to rakim and cool j...but snoop and ice cube represent the whole west coast. spice-1 and mc eiht are mainly known as gangsta rappers. they're definitely gangsta rap legends, no way around it.

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Re: Do Eiht and Spice get their true props in this hip hop game?
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2012, 10:46:13 PM »
Lol really? Cool J and Rakim?? Two of the true pioneers of this thing we love called hip hop. You'd do better comparing Rakim and Cool J to Cube and Snoop, that's the level they're on.

You've got your own fandom twisted, they're more on the level of an AZ or Killer Mike, shit maybe even Twista. These guys don't have songs or albums that would make a certified top 50 classics list, maybe to a west coast fan, but not to an average head.

I'm with Mike 100% on this.


az and killer mike didn't inspire nearly as many rappers as spice-1 or mc eiht. i don't think you realize that a whole generation of people grew up on that music...nobody in the game really grew up on az or killer mike, or was majorly influenced by them. ur right that snoop and ice cube are more comparable to rakim and cool j...but snoop and ice cube represent the whole west coast. spice-1 and mc eiht are mainly known as gangsta rappers. they're definitely gangsta rap legends, no way around it.

If you grew up on the East or South maybe your opinion about AZ and Killer Mike might be different. What if I said Juvenile and Redman? I'm not saying they're not West Coast Gangster Rap legends, cos obviously there's a lot of West Coast heads here that rate them highly, just they're stuck in that niche market, not legends to the overall hip hop circle. this is just my opinion though and I respect yours. You have to admit though, the comparison to LL and Rakim was slightly ridiculous.
 

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Re: Do Eiht and Spice get their true props in this hip hop game?
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2012, 10:49:46 PM »
Lol really? Cool J and Rakim?? Two of the true pioneers of this thing we love called hip hop. You'd do better comparing Rakim and Cool J to Cube and Snoop, that's the level they're on.

You've got your own fandom twisted, they're more on the level of an AZ or Killer Mike, shit maybe even Twista. These guys don't have songs or albums that would make a certified top 50 classics list, maybe to a west coast fan, but not to an average head.

I'm with Mike 100% on this.


az and killer mike didn't inspire nearly as many rappers as spice-1 or mc eiht. i don't think you realize that a whole generation of people grew up on that music...nobody in the game really grew up on az or killer mike, or was majorly influenced by them. ur right that snoop and ice cube are more comparable to rakim and cool j...but snoop and ice cube represent the whole west coast. spice-1 and mc eiht are mainly known as gangsta rappers. they're definitely gangsta rap legends, no way around it.

If you grew up on the East or South maybe your opinion about AZ and Killer Mike might be different. What if I said Juvenile and Redman? I'm not saying they're not West Coast Gangster Rap legends, cos obviously there's a lot of West Coast heads here that rate them highly, just they're stuck in that niche market, not legends to the overall hip hop circle. this is just my opinion though and I respect yours. You have to admit though, the comparison to LL and Rakim was slightly ridiculous.

true...it was more of an exaggeration. they aren't as big as LL or rakim, but they are legends on a lighter scale. definitely more important and influential in gangsta rap than AZ or Killer Mike were in any sub-genre of hip-hop. U'd have a better case with Juvenile and Redman, though.