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James Harden traded to the Rockets!!!!!

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Chamillitary Click:

--- Quote from: NIKCC on October 29, 2012, 04:04:12 PM ---lol@kobe hurt

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He's day to day. Obviously will play, but not a good look before tomorrow.

Sccit:

--- Quote from: M Dogg on October 29, 2012, 04:56:12 PM ---Kevin Martin is important to this trade because he's a gap for OKC. Martin is 29 years old, so he's getting to that tipping point, but for the next 2-3 years he'll be in his prime. The problem with Martin is that he is HORRIBLE on defense, and everything outside of scoring is lacking. He's a poor mans Ray Allen or Vince Carter. He's a pure shooting guard, he's score first and the rest of the game is what my teammates are for. If he could score better, he would have been an all-star. Don't get me wrong, he's a good scorer, but he is not 25 ppg. Where they'll miss Harden is that Harden can make game changing plays. Martin is not a game changer, he's a score first player who will get along with the rest of the roster but be out of place not being the first option. And this coming from a guy who usually picks up Martin for his fantasy teams because I know he'll get a lot of points. But his other stats suffer.

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as far as scoring goes, it's really not the problem...the problem is that james harden was a good defender who they were able to put on kobe, as well as other premier perimeter players.. he was also their top play-maker in the 4th quarter. kevin martin is a pure scorer, not a playmaker or defender like harden. on top of that, it will take some time for the whole team to build a new chemistry. i think if oklahoma never traded jeff green, they woulda beat dallas and won the title in 2010. now, again, they trade an integral part of their success, and they have to start from scratch. theres no way anyone can say oklahoma is a better team now than they were before the trade, and with this being the first year of the Lakers being together, this year was probably supposed to be their best shot yet of winning it all. crazy to break up a team that was a couple wins from a championship before they even peak.

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: NIKCC on October 29, 2012, 08:31:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on October 29, 2012, 04:56:12 PM ---Kevin Martin is important to this trade because he's a gap for OKC. Martin is 29 years old, so he's getting to that tipping point, but for the next 2-3 years he'll be in his prime. The problem with Martin is that he is HORRIBLE on defense, and everything outside of scoring is lacking. He's a poor mans Ray Allen or Vince Carter. He's a pure shooting guard, he's score first and the rest of the game is what my teammates are for. If he could score better, he would have been an all-star. Don't get me wrong, he's a good scorer, but he is not 25 ppg. Where they'll miss Harden is that Harden can make game changing plays. Martin is not a game changer, he's a score first player who will get along with the rest of the roster but be out of place not being the first option. And this coming from a guy who usually picks up Martin for his fantasy teams because I know he'll get a lot of points. But his other stats suffer.

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as far as scoring goes, it's really not the problem...the problem is that james harden was a good defender who they were able to put on kobe, as well as other premier perimeter players.. he was also their top play-maker in the 4th quarter. kevin martin is a pure scorer, not a playmaker or defender like harden. on top of that, it will take some time for the whole team to build a new chemistry. i think if oklahoma never traded jeff green, they woulda beat dallas and won the title in 2010. now, again, they trade an integral part of their success, and they have to start from scratch. theres no way anyone can say oklahoma is a better team now than they were before the trade, and with this being the first year of the Lakers being together, this year was probably supposed to be their best shot yet of winning it all. crazy to break up a team that was a couple wins from a championship before they even peak.

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We can't agree on many things, but I think it's safe to say we agree on this. Is it 2012?

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