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27 dead in elementary school shooting.....this shit has to be a set-up
virtuoso:
Are you unable to read? I have cited other recent massacres in which scores of people have died from knife attacks, meat cleaver attacks.
Will_B:
--- Quote from: Sikunta Kinte on December 16, 2012, 10:41:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on December 16, 2012, 07:57:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on December 16, 2012, 07:47:07 AM ---The 2nd Amendment which is the right to bear arms was put into place to protect the average person against a tyrannical government.
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No it wasn't.
And you know 100's of gun owners? I literally know 3 people at the most, and 2 of them work in pest control or farming.
The issue isn't a almost 1 off attack in China. It's the constant occurrence of these gun related massacres in America.
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Actually, that is incorrect. The amount of mass shooting incidents has not increased at all (http://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.html). They've actually gone down in the last decade. The media has ramped up the coverage of them. The media has you by the balls, amigo.
Have you even looked up MK Ultra and Operation Northwoods?
In your own words: "ps don't answer that".
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"There is no pattern, there is no increase," says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston's Northeastern University, who has been studying the subject since the 1980s, spurred by a rash of mass shootings in post offices."
There is a pattern if you look at America vs the rest of the Western World. They are nearly all in America homie. That's the pattern. Saying there is no increase is like saying 'its ok they still happen' - because u except they are part of normal society.
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: eurowigger on December 16, 2012, 10:40:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 10:24:57 AM ---
Which part about them utilising other weapons to kill don't you get?
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The point isn't whether or not other weapons can kill but that firearms can be used by anyone (no skill or strength required) to kill a huge amount of people in a very short time. It's still not a good enough reason to take them away form people though IMO. In fact I feel that everyone should be REQUIRED to carry a weapon instead of just being allowed to. Would make people think twice about how they behave if they know they might get shot.
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I cant remember the article, but there was a study where many counties and areas in the US that have concealed gun laws have led to lowered gun violence incidences. The logic being that people think twice to use a weapon on an individual in the event that the person they wish to attack may be armed as well.
Now, I don't reall like the idea of bringing back the wild west, but it puts a hole in a lot of your arguments.
eurowigger:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on December 16, 2012, 10:42:28 AM ---Are you unable to read? I have cited other recent massacres in which scores of people have died from knife attacks, meat cleaver attacks.
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Just trying to explain why people (not me) are calling for gun control even despite the obvious fact that other things can be used to kill as well. If that was for me..
If you are claiming cleavers are just as good as guns for the job how come the army doesn't go to war with them? Would be really convenient not to deal with ammo logistics etc.
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on December 16, 2012, 10:45:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sikunta Kinte on December 16, 2012, 10:41:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on December 16, 2012, 07:57:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on December 16, 2012, 07:47:07 AM ---The 2nd Amendment which is the right to bear arms was put into place to protect the average person against a tyrannical government.
--- End quote ---
No it wasn't.
And you know 100's of gun owners? I literally know 3 people at the most, and 2 of them work in pest control or farming.
The issue isn't a almost 1 off attack in China. It's the constant occurrence of these gun related massacres in America.
--- End quote ---
Actually, that is incorrect. The amount of mass shooting incidents has not increased at all (http://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.html). They've actually gone down in the last decade. The media has ramped up the coverage of them. The media has you by the balls, amigo.
Have you even looked up MK Ultra and Operation Northwoods?
In your own words: "ps don't answer that".
--- End quote ---
"There is no pattern, there is no increase," says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston's Northeastern University, who has been studying the subject since the 1980s, spurred by a rash of mass shootings in post offices."
There is a pattern if you look at America vs the rest of the Western World. They are nearly all in America homie. That's the pattern. Saying there is no increase is like saying 'its ok they still happen' - because u except they are part of normal society.
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Of course you leave out the part where these incidences have gone down during the past decade or the fact that lightening strikes are more common to kill people than a mass shooting lol.
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