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Quote from: Do Buy Albums on December 31, 2012, 07:18:12 AMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on December 31, 2012, 06:59:20 AMQuote from: Furor Teutonicus on December 29, 2012, 11:48:48 AMQuote from: Sikunta Kinte on December 28, 2012, 11:34:23 PMHammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedomWhat Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns? Gotta LOL @ Jrome the net banging pseudo-intellectual troll Net banging? Just cuz you're a eurowigger doesn't mean I am. I'm not trolling either, just continuing exposing your fallacious world view and laughing at how hard you dodge it. Go pray to your queen.
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on December 31, 2012, 06:59:20 AMQuote from: Furor Teutonicus on December 29, 2012, 11:48:48 AMQuote from: Sikunta Kinte on December 28, 2012, 11:34:23 PMHammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedomWhat Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns? Gotta LOL @ Jrome the net banging pseudo-intellectual troll
Quote from: Furor Teutonicus on December 29, 2012, 11:48:48 AMQuote from: Sikunta Kinte on December 28, 2012, 11:34:23 PMHammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedomWhat Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns?
Quote from: Sikunta Kinte on December 28, 2012, 11:34:23 PMHammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedom
Hammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on December 31, 2012, 09:04:18 AMQuote from: Do Buy Albums on December 31, 2012, 07:18:12 AMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on December 31, 2012, 06:59:20 AMQuote from: Furor Teutonicus on December 29, 2012, 11:48:48 AMQuote from: Sikunta Kinte on December 28, 2012, 11:34:23 PMHammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedomWhat Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns? Gotta LOL @ Jrome the net banging pseudo-intellectual troll Net banging? Just cuz you're a eurowigger doesn't mean I am. I'm not trolling either, just continuing exposing your fallacious world view and laughing at how hard you dodge it. Go pray to your queen. It's funny how you're flipping your argument to non Americans having a lack of masculinity, or having a monarch (being the same thing)Between the lines you're saying guns make u hard as hell Jrome, ain't cha....the welfare of victims is most certainly secondary to that. I see u Fuck what everyone says, u wanna feel pumped
Some more recent gun and shooting accidents involving children include:a 2-year-old in Cooper County, Missouri, died after shooting himself in the head with a handgun that "he got a hold of" in his house.a 3-year-old in Loris, South Carolina, near Myrtle Beach, died after shooting himself in the head with a pistol that he found in the car.a 5-year-old in Belleville, Illinois, near St. Louis, was accidentally shot in the head with a shotgun by his 10-year-old brother.a 3-year-old in Maryland Heights, Missouri, near St. Louis, who shot himself once in the chest, died. He found the gun in his parents bedroom, one of whom is a police officer.a 2-year-old was shot in the head by his 5-year-old brother in Connersville, Indiana who was playing with a gun he found in a bedroom. The boy, a twin, died of the gun shot.a 3-year-old in St. Louis, Missouri who died after she shot herself in the head with a gun she found tucked between two mattresses.a 6-year-old who was shot and killed by his 11-year-old stepbrother, in what was initially thought to be an accident, but the boy is now facing possible murder charges. The two boys were left home alone at the time of the shooting in Martinsville, Indiana.a 10-year-old in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi died after he shot himself with his grandfather's gun that he found in his nightstand. He would have been going into the fifth grade next fall.a 15-year-old from Cherry Hill, Baltimore was shot in the head and killed by a 12-year-old friend who was playing with the gun during a sleepover.a 5-year-old from Bossier City, Louisiana found a loaded handgun a cabinet in his home, and accidentally shot and killed himself.a 2-year-old near Fresno, California found a loaded, semi-automatic handgun in his home, walked into a bedroom with the gun, and it fired, striking and killing his 6-year-old sister.a 3-year-old in South Carolina was shot in his upper boy by his uncle who was cleaning his gun when it accidentally fire. The toddler died in emergency surgery.a 2-year-old in Georgia was shot in the back by a 9 or 10-year-old who found a gun in a van they were all playing in while the toddler's family was preparing to move to a new apartment.a 2-year-old in Phoenix was shot in the face with a handgun by her 8-year-old brother, who thought he was playing with a toy gun he found on the floor of his grandfather's apartment.a 3-year-old in Summerville, South Carolina who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to her head after finding a loaded, unsecured handgun on the window sill of her parent's bedrooma 5-year-old in Telferner, Texas who shot his 4-year-old brother in the abdomen with a rifle they were playing with in their home. His brother died from the gun shot wound.a 2-year-old in Missouri who died after he accidentally shot himself in the head after finding a loaded handgun on a shelf in the closet of his parent's bedrooman 11-year-old in Indianapolis who was accidentally shot by his brotherthree children in Houston who were hurt when a 6-year-old accidentally fired a gun he had brought to schoolan 8-year-old in Alabama who died from an accidental shotgun blasta 2-year-old in Vermont who died after he was accidentally shot with a rifle by a siblinga 10-year-old who lost use of his right eye after being shot by an older teen cousin while they were playing with a gun that they thought was unloadeda 3-year-old in North Carolina who shot and killed himselfa 4-year-old who accidentally shot a 12-year-old in Louisiana while playing with a rifle they found in a closetWe look at the mass murderer, and we should. Be we should also look at the parent.
For reals though, we have a culture problem, and these mass shootings are just an illusion, a distraction from the real problem. People in America don't know how to treat guns. We treat guns as a weekend hobby we do well we get drunk. We don't need gun control, we need people to become educated as to the dangers of guns, and how to properly treat them. We should educate people on guns the same way we educated them on civics, because guns are a civics issue in the US. Don't ban gun, teach people how to use them, clean them, respect them and store them to prevent home accidents. The most recent statistic is that 500 children died in home accidents in 2008. Here are some examples from 2008, I am trying to find more recent examples.
Quote from: M Dogg on January 02, 2013, 12:39:19 PMFor reals though, we have a culture problem, and these mass shootings are just an illusion, a distraction from the real problem. People in America don't know how to treat guns. We treat guns as a weekend hobby we do well we get drunk. We don't need gun control, we need people to become educated as to the dangers of guns, and how to properly treat them. We should educate people on guns the same way we educated them on civics, because guns are a civics issue in the US. Don't ban gun, teach people how to use them, clean them, respect them and store them to prevent home accidents. The most recent statistic is that 500 children died in home accidents in 2008. Here are some examples from 2008, I am trying to find more recent examples.This is largely inaccurate, no offense. I don't know how many gun owners you know, but I was raised around people who hunt, and people who have guns in their home for protection. Out of let's say 10 households I remember with gun enthusiasts present, 9 of them practiced safe gun ownership. Alcohol was never involved in any firearm activity, not even a beer when hunting. What you're doing with that statement is letting the odd redneck/nigger/cholo's poor gun discipline speak for all gun owners in America and that's not fair. I agree we need more gun education, and support teaching it to the youth and adults regularly, but if you put out statements like that in an environment that matters, someone might believe you and start writing us all off as lazy idiots.
No problem, though I will say I don't consider myself anti-gun. My dad is a card carrying member of the NRA and former Marine. BUT he did have me go to every gun safety course before he let me touch a gun, and I technically own a couple of hunting rifles. (though they are still at my dad's house as I don't plan on having guns around my children until they are at least 13 years old.) I just think it's a culture issue. I posted this on my Facebook, a list of the known murders on New Years Day. One day into 2013, and we have this list to chew on. 7 people shot, 1 killed in a party in Columbus, GA3 people shot and killed in Philly, one was just 172 victims were found shot to death in Elizabeth City, NCA 31 year old man was killed at a social gathering in Suffolk, VA11 people shot, 1 killed so far this new year in ChicagoA man shot and killed in a Georgia night club4 people shot, 1 killed, the other three in critical condition in a shooting in Lansing, MI4 shot, 1 killed in a gas station in Lorain, OHA man killed his girlfriend in Port Arthur, TX3 shot, 1 killed as a 19 year old boy died at a party in Clayton, NCA man was shot to death in Corpus Christi, Texas early this morningA 15 year old boy was killed visiting a friend for New Years when bullets hit their home in Flint, MIA man was shot and killed in IndianapolisAnd a woman died in Columbus, NC, her boyfriend is being held. A college student was killed while at his parents house in New Orleans, LAA man was found shot to death in a front porch in Cleveland, OH2 men shot and killed in seperate tragidies Milwaukee, WIA man was shot and killed outside a sports bar in Houston, TXOne day into the new year, it's amazing! Very few of these people were killed by assault rifle. We have a culture problem, and it's time to address it. To hammer it home, I am not in favor of gun restriction, but lately I have been open to owner restriction.
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on December 31, 2012, 06:59:20 AMQuote from: Furor Teutonicus on December 29, 2012, 11:48:48 AMQuote from: Sikunta Kinte on December 28, 2012, 11:34:23 PMHammers must go. Why are you yanks so obsessed with hardware tools? Just let the government ban them.No way. I need to be armed with a hammer to prevent the government from taking my freedomWhat Euro country do you rep? Does it suck knowing that you guys gave your king or whatever all your guns? Considering my ava/username it isn't that hard to guess. But nice to see that you still can make these claims despite not even knowing which country I'm from.Truth is, there are millions of gun owners here (no automatics tho). The difference is that we a) don't have a crazy cult that glorifies guns beyond all sanity and b) we don't live in an anarchistic country. Actually, it doesn't suck in any way. And frankly we have no king and a more democratic constitution than you. I know that doesn't mean shit in those times were democracy is a chimera but your precious guns didn't stop your government from controlling you either. We don't have crazy uber powerful secret services and we didn't fall for that war on terrorism patriot act bs so I guess it isn't all that bad over here. Yet. Despite the fucking EU regime. But thank you for your interest.
No problem, though I will say I don't consider myself anti-gun. My dad is a card carrying member of the NRA and former Marine. BUT he did have me go to every gun safety course before he let me touch a gun, and I technically own a couple of hunting rifles. (though they are still at my dad's house as I don't plan on having guns around my children until they are at least 13 years old.) I just think it's a culture issue. I posted this on my Facebook, a list of the known murders on New Years Day. One day into 2013, and we have this list to chew on. One day into the new year, it's amazing! Very few of these people were killed by assault rifle. We have a culture problem, and it's time to address it. To hammer it home, I am not in favor of gun restriction, but lately I have been open to owner restriction.