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Don't you find it ironic that many gun control supporters
Will_B:
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:16:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AM ---By your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.
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No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.
It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.
Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.
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No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.
But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'
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You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.
Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.
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I know you're trying to be clever dude but its boring
Did you know Godfather pt II is just a movie?
MistaNova:
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 03:23:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:16:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AM ---By your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.
--- End quote ---
No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.
It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.
Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.
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No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.
But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'
--- End quote ---
You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.
Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.
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I know you're trying to be clever dude but its boring
Did you know Godfather pt II is just a movie?
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Did you know that you're attempts at trying to avoid my questions are always the same?
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Sikunta Kinte on January 28, 2013, 10:36:09 PM ---Those new laws proposed don't do jack shit to stop a mass shooting or prevent a "criminal" from possessing a gun.
The only thing that law does is further restrict the responsible gun owner. They get punished for everyone else's transgressions.
So what was the purpose of this law then if it wasn't to further restrict the 2nd amendment?
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By an unwritten rule I don't debate Sik, but I will just this once.
The law does nothing to restrict current gun owners and it does everything to restrict future gun owners. With 300 million guns in position and 360 million people, we may have to rethink who is buying guns. The number of gun owners are actually going down, but the number of guns bought is going up. Meaning those that own guns are buying more. My father owns between 15-20 guns, if that is not over kill I don't know what is.
The gradual take away of the 2nd amendment also can't happen even within 2-3 generations. There is way too much to take away. The only way the 2nd amendment can be taken away is to either rewrite the constitution, which would NEVER happen, or an all out civil war, which the American government knows it will lose. There are more armed people than soldiers, there are more former vets than current military personal and there are more guns in position of American citizens hands than in the position of the military. The 2nd Amendment is so strong in the US that there is no way in the world it can be fazed out by "the powers that be" within 2-3 generations. There are also millions of illegally own guns in the inner cities. Like Immortal Technique said, there will be war on the streets. Unless that kind of drastic measures are taken, your guns are safe. And these laws don't punish you. It only puts into place laws that should have not been taken out.
As for who is America's real criminal, check out this link. I think there is something to this. What does it mean, I'm not sure. But it is a very interesting read.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasoline
Will_B:
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:25:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 03:23:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:16:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AM ---By your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.
--- End quote ---
No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.
It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.
Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.
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No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.
But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'
--- End quote ---
You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.
Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.
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I know you're trying to be clever dude but its boring
Did you know Godfather pt II is just a movie?
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Did you know that you're attempts at trying to avoid my questions are always the same?
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Avoiding what, somehow making a connection with Gangsta Rap and real life issues?
You sound like pro censorship groups now.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 03:16:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 02:36:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: Iveus on January 29, 2013, 02:24:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Do Buy Albums on January 29, 2013, 01:38:05 AM ---By your response you think it's ok to generally let mentally handicapped people have free access to guns.
--- End quote ---
No, my response is saying that to me you're a fool for thinking that only the mentally handicapped who are (somehow) related to gun owners are responsible for gun shootings.
It's not just the mentally handicapped who commit all those shootings, a lot of the time they're average folks that just break down and lose their minds. I've heard, read and seen many stories where people close to the criminals, like their family members or friends, say they'd never thought (insert criminal's name here) could do such a horrible act and that they appeared to be normal everyday citizens.
Plus there's this thing called the black market, everyone has access to a gun there.
--- End quote ---
No Iveus I gave just one example off the dome of legislation that could've saved 26 innocent lives last year alone.
But you read it as 'I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM AMERICA'
--- End quote ---
You never mentioned the part about 26 innocent lives that could've been saved last year.
Just like you never mentioned why you love generic gangsta rap which glorifies guns to a point where it's pure fiction yet demand that guns be taken away in a country that you don't even live in.
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Let's break it down a bit.
We are supporters of the 2nd Amendment, which means you can't restrict gun rights. At the same time, you pick on Gangsta Rap, ironically enough of a Westcoast Rap forum. Also, Gangsta Rap has been dead for a while, BUT Rap Music is protected under the 1st Amendment. So your argument is irrelevant. You can't take away one right just to protect another.
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