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Do you think they (lapd) are getting what they deserve ?
M Dogg™:
Nah, he's still alive. If he was dead then the media would spin it out of control and show the effectiveness of drones in law enforcement.
As for your observation of the police, that's exactly why the people have turned against the police. The efforts the LAPD have made have been great. But the social structure is there so that it's all for nothing. I am not blaming the LAPD higher ups for trying, but it's been 20 years since Rodney King and the LAPD still has tons and tons of issues. This is a system problem the likes which will take years and years to deal with. Until then, minorities in Southern California are tired of hearing it will get better. They want results and they want to ensure the men of their communities come home safely at night. This problem is bigger than Dorner in that aspect.
I hope that drones in police work is not the result of this. I really hope so.
virtuoso:
Correct me if I am wrong, but Rodney King saga was just one aspect of it, the wick was already lit with the animosity and the sense of racial targeting which the blacks felt coming from latino's, what the cops did was to to throw in more dynamite and the black people in some of those community's, just lost it. To underline what I mean about the cops not hating black people, I have seen videos of white people in spain, students, protesting outside a government building peacefully, against changes to their syllabus, young women and guys. When suddenly dozens and dozens of police in full riot gear descend upon them smashing them in the knee caps, in the back with batons, the piercing screams of women and men in absolute agony is unmistakeable. Now such was the co-ordinated uniformed manner of what ensued, the spotlight should not be shone on the cops actions per sa, the real question to ask is what the fuck are they indoctrinating these cops with. I disagree with you when you acknowledge that the higher ups have tried to change for the better, what those scenes i am describing to you illustrate is a systematic brutality.
I hope I am wrong mdogg, but I expect that this is the moment when Drones are reallly introduced publicly into the public spotlight as it's the perfect moment to sell the dumb public on them. Crazy times, are just about to get so much crazier unfortunately.
The_Ripper:
The Disturbing Story Of The Third Innocent Person Police Attacked In Christopher Dorner Manhunt
The story of a man who was attacked by police after being mistaken for renegade ex-LAPD cop Christopher Dorner has—until now—gotten buried in the already awful story about the LAPD opening fire on a 71-year-old newspaper delivery woman and her 47-year-old daughter.
Unfortunately, the circumstances of the shootings on Thursday morning and the severity of the third victim's injuries appear to have been initially downplayed in police and news reports. The story that ran in the Los Angeles Times the next day made no mention of the second shooting. Yesterday's follow-up piece from The Daily Breeze on how the neighborhood was reeling from the first shooting made no reference to the second shooting that happened blocks away.
But last night the Los Angeles Times posted an entire story focusing on what happened to the third victim David Perdue.
Perdue was on his way to catch some waves on Thursday morning before he went to work, when police pulled him over to ask him a few questions about who he was and where he was headed. (It's not clear from the story whether these were LAPD officers or officers from the Torrance Police Department). They let him go, and then "seconds later" a Torrance police cruiser rammed into his truck and opened fired on him.[/u]
A press release said only that he no "visible injuries." Perdue was fortunate that none of the bullets hit him, but that description seems to minimize the seriousness of what happened. Perdue told the Times that he had a concussion, his shoulder was badly injured and his truck was totaled.
As with the shooting of the newspaper deliverywoman Emma Hernandez and her daughter Margie Carranza, police said that it appeared that Perdue's truck matched the description of Dorner's. But Perdue's truck was a different make and color. And the Times notes Perdue is a white guy who looks about a hundred pounds lighter than Dorner.
It sounds like the two shootings were part of the same incident, although for whatever reason neither the Los Angeles Times nor the Torrance Police Department's press release explicitly connect them or explore the implications of that connection. We've called the LAPD and called and e-mailed the Torrance Police Department for a comment, and we'll update this post if we hear from them.
In the press release about the incident involving Perdue, the Torrance Police Department writes that "uniformed officers of the Torrance Police Department heard shots fired coming from the area of Sunnyglen Park in the City of Torrance, in proximity to where members of the Los Angeles Police Department was providing protective services related to the regional law enforcement effort to capture murder suspect Christopher Dorner."
There were wildly different reports about the timing of the two shootings—including some reports that said they happened a half-hour apart—but all of seem to be in the same ballpark. In its most recent report, the Los Angeles Times reports the Hernandez shooting happened sometime "around 5 am," and the Torrance PD report says Perdue was shot at around 5:15 am.
Based on these news and police reports, it seems very likely that the two shootings were connected. If it is true, it means that Torrance officers opened fire on an innocent man because they were rattled by the sounds of LAPD opening fire on two innocent women. And that raises even more questions about the way that police are handling their search for Dorner.
jeromechickenbone:
I don't know all the circumstances, but what is the proof that this cop committed these murders? The media tells you he did, but what is the proof?
I know that he tried to blow the whistle on LAPD corruption. That would make him A big threat to them, he's not playing ball.
I also think he is going to be the first American to be killed on our soil by a drone. They are setting the precedent for that with this case.
If he is guilty, he should pay, and I don't agree at all with his methodology of revenge. But there are questions to be answered before I blindly buy what the media is saying about the story.
virtuoso:
Correct, he allegedly murdered these cops, however Jrome, if you have read his manifesto, I would suggest that he is legit in so far there is nothing to be gained here in propaganda terms from him being a fake, the manifesto slavishly worships the establishment, the manifesto speaks to his delusions, his bizarre erratic mind. All in all, I am going to go out on a limb and say I am 99% sure that this is all legit. As for what he supposedly knows, he had the opportunity in that bizarre 15 page rant to uncover truths, but he didn't , beyond exposing what he deems to be foul corruption. He is a threat to no one, that is were it not for the fact that he is allegedly murdering people and furthermore, there is no green light to kill him per sa, the cops want him dead because they see him as a cop killer as evidenced by their crazy thuggery when targeting the wrong people. I don't think they are setting the precedent for a drone to kill him, but I do think they are rolling out the red carpets to drones now.
The march into hardcore dictatorial rule or attempt at, grows that little bit closer
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