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Lmfao. That's disgusting.
Quote from: BiggSadot on March 28, 2013, 04:23:16 PMI been said these motherfuckas just like artists cosigned by the big name guys. Glad Im not the only one who sees this. Its like they got Jedi mind control over dumb motherfuckas. That's the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. We would all be Drake, Wayne, Cole, Big Sean, Tyga fans then. But we're not. Jay, Em, Pac and Big were just better than their surroundings, hence their ascension to the top. I'm not saying their indisputably, hands down the four best rappers ever. There are others in their class. But to act like those four aren't in the top 15 all-time just speaks on your credibility...or how big of a troll you are. And to be among the top 15 people to ever do something means you're NOT overrated, it means you accomplished something worth acknowledging. T.I. is just not among the same ranks.
I been said these motherfuckas just like artists cosigned by the big name guys. Glad Im not the only one who sees this. Its like they got Jedi mind control over dumb motherfuckas.
Quote from: OG Classic Material on March 28, 2013, 03:13:10 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on March 28, 2013, 02:40:02 PMNobody sits there and says Jay-Z doesn't have a bad song. Pac and Big have wack songs too, doesn't make them overrated. Everyone's got a handful of wack music. But between the four names that keep coming up, Jay, Eminem, Pac and Big, their overall bodies of work shits on literally 99% of the history of Hip Hop. you haven't heard much hip hop at all.^^^^^^^this
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 28, 2013, 02:40:02 PMNobody sits there and says Jay-Z doesn't have a bad song. Pac and Big have wack songs too, doesn't make them overrated. Everyone's got a handful of wack music. But between the four names that keep coming up, Jay, Eminem, Pac and Big, their overall bodies of work shits on literally 99% of the history of Hip Hop. you haven't heard much hip hop at all.
Nobody sits there and says Jay-Z doesn't have a bad song. Pac and Big have wack songs too, doesn't make them overrated. Everyone's got a handful of wack music. But between the four names that keep coming up, Jay, Eminem, Pac and Big, their overall bodies of work shits on literally 99% of the history of Hip Hop.
Quote from: ICHI THE KILLER on March 28, 2013, 05:18:58 PMQuote from: OG Classic Material on March 28, 2013, 03:13:10 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on March 28, 2013, 02:40:02 PMNobody sits there and says Jay-Z doesn't have a bad song. Pac and Big have wack songs too, doesn't make them overrated. Everyone's got a handful of wack music. But between the four names that keep coming up, Jay, Eminem, Pac and Big, their overall bodies of work shits on literally 99% of the history of Hip Hop. you haven't heard much hip hop at all.^^^^^^^thisPreach. As a matter of fact this is comin from the same kid who didnt know who Lord Jamar or Brand Nubian was until like a month ago when Jamar dissed Kanye, but calls anyone who doesnt worship Big, Pac, Jay, Em or Nas a troll. Its the prime example of how you only know and believe whatever the industry wants you to maybe not all of it but they still controllin you a little. Plus me sayin an artist is overrated doesnt mean I dislike them. Just means in my years of hip hop listening Ive heard better artists who dont get as much praise and respect for bein as good or better than those other guys.
I say Jay, Pac, Big & Nas are top 15. This clown says "apparently anyone who doesn't 'worship' them is a troll", I didn't say that. I think the proper response would be to see you reach & tell me who in the history of Hip Hop is knocking Nas out of the top 15.But a nigga ain't REALLY going to throw any shred of validity he's got left, is he?
And you gotta have Cube, Rakim, KRS-One and Biggie in the top 15. My point being is that if you're in the Top 15 of all-time in the history of humanity at anything, you shouldn't be viewed as "overrated". It's like saying "Oscar Robertson is overrated" because you don't consider him in the same light as MJ, Magic and Bird. He's still Top 10 though.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 29, 2013, 07:42:02 PMI say Jay, Pac, Big & Nas are top 15. This clown says "apparently anyone who doesn't 'worship' them is a troll", I didn't say that. I think the proper response would be to see you reach & tell me who in the history of Hip Hop is knocking Nas out of the top 15.But a nigga ain't REALLY going to throw any shred of validity he's got left, is he?Nas is top 3, so is 2Pac. I usually think of Jay-Z as top 15, I think he's passed LL Cool J and Snoop Dogg now just based off longevity. Biggie, I also have in the top 15, I am not sure where though. But to not have any of these rappers there is a hater. People will say their favorite underground rappers, and that's all good. But one of the biggest, and I mean BIGGEST areas to rank a rapper is influence. How many rappers copied their style after them. Rakim fathered the whole ultra lyrical group, Nas, Kurupt (before all the drugs) and all of them. KRS-One's style fathered 2Pac, Ice Cube's style fathered Game for better or worst. 2Pac basically fathered a whole generation, Jay-Z fathered a whole era (Swag era), Nas fathered a whole underground scene (especially after Stillmatic and going after the government right after 9-11), Biggie fathered Jay-Z. These things matter, who influenced others is very important when ranking rappers. I don't care what people think of your skills, if no one is being influenced by you then your work was almost worthless.
Quote from: M Dogg on March 29, 2013, 09:25:44 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on March 29, 2013, 07:42:02 PMI say Jay, Pac, Big & Nas are top 15. This clown says "apparently anyone who doesn't 'worship' them is a troll", I didn't say that. I think the proper response would be to see you reach & tell me who in the history of Hip Hop is knocking Nas out of the top 15.But a nigga ain't REALLY going to throw any shred of validity he's got left, is he?Nas is top 3, so is 2Pac. I usually think of Jay-Z as top 15, I think he's passed LL Cool J and Snoop Dogg now just based off longevity. Biggie, I also have in the top 15, I am not sure where though. But to not have any of these rappers there is a hater. People will say their favorite underground rappers, and that's all good. But one of the biggest, and I mean BIGGEST areas to rank a rapper is influence. How many rappers copied their style after them. Rakim fathered the whole ultra lyrical group, Nas, Kurupt (before all the drugs) and all of them. KRS-One's style fathered 2Pac, Ice Cube's style fathered Game for better or worst. 2Pac basically fathered a whole generation, Jay-Z fathered a whole era (Swag era), Nas fathered a whole underground scene (especially after Stillmatic and going after the government right after 9-11), Biggie fathered Jay-Z. These things matter, who influenced others is very important when ranking rappers. I don't care what people think of your skills, if no one is being influenced by you then your work was almost worthless.No hating. Would you consider Masta Ace top 15 as Eminem based his style on him?
Em was influenced by Cage too.
Quote from: M Dogg on March 29, 2013, 09:25:44 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on March 29, 2013, 07:42:02 PMI say Jay, Pac, Big & Nas are top 15. This clown says "apparently anyone who doesn't 'worship' them is a troll", I didn't say that. I think the proper response would be to see you reach & tell me who in the history of Hip Hop is knocking Nas out of the top 15.But a nigga ain't REALLY going to throw any shred of validity he's got left, is he?Nas is top 3, so is 2Pac. I usually think of Jay-Z as top 15, I think he's passed LL Cool J and Snoop Dogg now just based off longevity. Biggie, I also have in the top 15, I am not sure where though. But to not have any of these rappers there is a hater. People will say their favorite underground rappers, and that's all good. But one of the biggest, and I mean BIGGEST areas to rank a rapper is influence. How many rappers copied their style after them. Rakim fathered the whole ultra lyrical group, Nas, Kurupt (before all the drugs) and all of them. KRS-One's style fathered 2Pac, Ice Cube's style fathered Game for better or worst. 2Pac basically fathered a whole generation, Jay-Z fathered a whole era (Swag era), Nas fathered a whole underground scene (especially after Stillmatic and going after the government right after 9-11), Biggie fathered Jay-Z. These things matter, who influenced others is very important when ranking rappers. I don't care what people think of your skills, if no one is being influenced by you then your work was almost worthless.Jay hasn't fathered anything, his whole career is based off of biting