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List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
virtuoso:
I respect M Dogg for bringing this up, this is a BIG deal, the usage of drones is essentially a model, or a prototype of future warfare and yes of course you are right that soldiers commit heinous acts but the use of drones takes things to a new level simply because those drones are being operated by someone perhaps thousands of miles away and so there is a complete disconnect between their actions and the devastation it causes. It's also a big deal because soldiers do have the ability to not massacre, the reality is that drones being utilised now are simply the first wave, the second wave will not be controlled by a human operator as robotic warfare rears it's nefarious head. By the way M Dogg the only thing I would say is don't forget the women being killed in these attacks too.
These are all sickening war crimes, you can't murder a group of 40 because a person of interest is in attendance at a wedding, but they do. Fuck what your friends say, seriously, they don't have to agree with you, but at least they can respect you have principles.
Sami:
Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Ghost Swearengen on April 23, 2013, 04:43:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 23, 2013, 04:40:56 PM ---They can kill each other all they want. But we control our government and we should demand that our military and drones not kill people who are no threat to us.
That's why I am glad we didn't go into Syria. Let them figure out their own war. It is time to leave Afghanistan. If we want until they stop kill each other we will never leave.
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So it's cool if kids die, as long as we don't kill them. I get it.
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It's not cool when kids die, but we shouldn't be the ones killing them. We need to remove our troops and let the people of those nations hold others accountable.
http://www.youtube.com/v/AeME7Q6Oaj0?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
KrazySumwhat:
--- Quote from: Ghost Swearengen on April 23, 2013, 01:15:33 PM ---Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative. And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own. They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight. Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.
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So fucking true. That is sig worthy right there. Americans and westerners in general really piss me off with their ignorance. But i guess i cant talk, i aint religious so iam ignorant to being brainwashed or being spiritual and have such strong faith and enlightenment..
We are all guilty of being ignorant to what we dont understand or how we have been raised/brainwashed/controlled/led to believe/told what is right and wrong/acceptable/unacceptable,normal/not normal, etc.
But yes in many parts of the world you are an adult much sooner than us westerners, raised to marry, breed, fight/kill , etc. But the do gooders fail to see this or fail to take note even when they see it.
Oh the children...gimmie a break.
if they had the power to kill western children(the ones in power over there) best believe that they would.
--- Quote from: Sami on April 25, 2013, 06:01:17 PM ---Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
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Thats bullshit. Its being superior, having greater technology/the advantage and using it. Why send in men to die or be captured when you have machines? its common sense, its also them testing out their equipment and gaining valuable data.
Not saying its right or wrong but if you've got the tech why the fuck not use it? its 2013.
EDIT: oh and honour? who the fuck fights for honour? Most fight for power and self gain or to protect themselves and others. The Japanese aint been fighting for some time. Is fighting for power honarable? is fighting for religion honarable? fighting loyally for a bad leader honarable?
Western nations are just big multicultural lands being mixed breeded, theres no real need to fight for honour when your own country dosent even have an identity or pure race any more. IMO anyways^^;
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: KrazySumwhat on April 29, 2013, 06:22:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ghost Swearengen on April 23, 2013, 01:15:33 PM ---Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative. And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own. They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight. Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.
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So fucking true. That is sig worthy right there. Americans and westerners in general really piss me off with their ignorance. But i guess i cant talk, i aint religious so iam ignorant to being brainwashed or being spiritual and have such strong faith and enlightenment..
We are all guilty of being ignorant to what we dont understand or how we have been raised/brainwashed/controlled/led to believe/told what is right and wrong/acceptable/unacceptable,normal/not normal, etc.
But yes in many parts of the world you are an adult much sooner than us westerners, raised to marry, breed, fight/kill , etc. But the do gooders fail to see this or fail to take note even when they see it.
Oh the children...gimmie a break.
if they had the power to kill western children(the ones in power over there) best believe that they would.
--- Quote from: Sami on April 25, 2013, 06:01:17 PM ---Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
--- End quote ---
Thats bullshit. Its being superior, having greater technology/the advantage and using it. Why send in men to die or be captured when you have machines? its common sense, its also them testing out their equipment and gaining valuable data.
Not saying its right or wrong but if you've got the tech why the fuck not use it? its 2013.
EDIT: oh and honour? who the fuck fights for honour? Most fight for power and self gain or to protect themselves and others. The Japanese aint been fighting for some time. Is fighting for power honarable? is fighting for religion honarable? fighting loyally for a bad leader honarable?
Western nations are just big multicultural lands being mixed breeded, theres no real need to fight for honour when your own country dosent even have an identity or pure race any more. IMO anyways^^;
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So because kids will die, we should be the ones to kill them. It's time to get out of this Cold War mentality of being the police of the world and get the fuck out of wars.
Here is a list of wars involving the United States:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
Then to look at it, fight wars and we don't win them because we fight endless wars where you can't win. So what the world is fucked up. It can be as fucked up as it wants to be. But don't get us thrown into it.
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