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Phil Jackson finally compares Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant
Hack Wilson - real:
Nash swept Kobe in the playoffs that year...he deserved MVP fair and square
Hack Wilson - real:
how did Kobe deserve the 06-07 MVP?? Dirk lead his team to 67 wins. Nash was also voted ahead of Kobe too.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2007.html#mvp
and 02-03 look at what KG did, HE truly deserved that MVP
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2003.html#mvp
23 points, 13.4 rebounds and 6 assists per game
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Keeping It Gully on May 19, 2013, 08:22:54 PM ---how did Kobe deserve the 06-07 MVP?? Dirk lead his team to 67 wins. Nash was also voted ahead of Kobe too.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2007.html#mvp
and 02-03 look at what KG did, HE truly deserved that MVP
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2003.html#mvp
23 points, 13.4 rebounds and 6 assists per game
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because kobe was still the more valuable player. the fact that he led a team consisting of kwame brown-smush parker-luke walton in the starting 5 to the playoffs in back-to-back seasons is astonishing in itself. dirk on those laker teams woulda had them at 20 wins, tops.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Keeping It Gully on May 19, 2013, 08:18:57 PM ---Nash swept Kobe in the playoffs that year...he deserved MVP fair and square
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HA
Actually it was a 7 game series, the Suns won a game with Kobe scoring 50 POINTS!
The next year, it was a 5 game series and Kobe scored 30+ in 3 out of 4 games, and the other game he basically protested his horrible teammates and kept passing the ball, Odom scored 17 and the next best scorer was Walton with 10, no one else in double digits.
Say what you will about Kobe, during those years, in those years, you couldn't mess with him. He was the best player in the league, many writers admit that now and they cite the rape trail as why he wasn't voted MVP those years. On the flip side, Nash was a good player but he was the "safest" MVP the league could have. He was open minded (he started talking about White Privilege in a majority black league), he had a family man image and he was liked all around. Sports writers admit it today, Kobe was robbed.
The 2003 year, Kobe was the best player in the game. It was given to Duncan. That's a bit more understandable than the Nash win. Kobe was the best player, Duncan was the best player on the best team. That comes into play in a close race. Garnett was up there too. Still, if Kobe didn't have Shaq, people would talk about how great he was.
Let's face it man, when you are arguing prime for prime, you are GREATLY mismatched trying to argue against Kobe. Kobe's best was only second to Jordan. (at least since the 60's) 2003 award was close, as the voting showed. But that was the year that Kobe, with Shaq taking huge numbers still, showed why he was the best player in the league. But when in doubt, they went best player on best team, which makes sense. 2006-2007 awards made NO sense. Kobe had a crap team, carried them to the playoffs, carried that dead weight center they had named... awe shit I forgot his name... to be a starting center for a playoff team even though he scored no more than 7 points in any game against the Suns. He carried Smush Parker to the playoffs. Kobe even made him better, as Parker was actually scoring 10ppg those two years, the only time he ever averaged over 2ppg.
Simply put, Kobe at his best was on some historic shit.
So I say again... Kobe>LeBron>Bird
Hack Wilson - real:
you sound like an idiot m-frogg
wilt chamberlain's prime which consists of scoring 50 and 44 points for a whole season can't match kobe's?
oscar robertson can't match kobe?? as I said before, Bird was the MVP for 3 straight years and Kobe was not. You can try to rewrite history but Nash deserved those MVP's because he lead his teams. 18.6 and 12 assists a game isn't slouch shit. neither is what Tim Duncan did in 02-03 (btw his team beat kobe in the playoffs too)
i'd also take Magic and Shaq in their primes over Kobe too. same with Hakeem when he was running through every center in the playoffs (ewing, robinson, shaq, vlade etc)
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