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Mietek23:

--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 01, 2013, 12:23:31 PM ---lol...no he aint as talented. physically? yes..fundamentally, his actual basketball skills are no where near kobe's. and even if, u here makin it seem like he's out there playing with a bunch of dudes with the same amount of talent lmao. how much did u watch kobe in his prime? u had to take a shot, didnt ya? if u wanna play it like that then charles barkley, karl malone, hakeem olajuwon, etc. were all as talented as MJ.

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Dude, are you nuts? I didn't took any shot at Kobe, stop being so obsessed with everything related to him. I've said LeBron is just as talented as him which is true. I not talking about fundamentals or work ethic but pure basketball talent. Those two are considered the greatest players in post-Jordan era, with Kevin Durant following.

LeBron has all the tools to be as successful as Kobe - will he achieve it? Will he have the same amount of impact on the league as Kobe had for the past 10+ years? It's hard to tell at this moment, plus they are different kind of players and I don't compare them.

I'm watching Kobe since his debut season - I know what he's done and how great of a player he is, you don't have to tell me about it. He's probably my favorite player to watch cause he plays like the game was supposed to be played, without any flops or none of that other bullshit. But I'm giving credit where credit is due - LeBron is an unbelievable talent and can be compare easily to Kobe as far as pure basketball skills goes.

If he'll develop a work ethic like Kobe, stopped flopping and just play the game like he supposed to - sky's the limit.


Oh, and unlike you - I don't consider "Hakeem Olajuwon were as talented as Jordan" statement as an insult. It's true, he's def up there with MJ as far as pure basketball skills goes. Same goes for all the other great players of the 90's - Jordan separated himself from the rest of the league due his incredible work ethic and his ridiculous competitive drive. Despite being the best player in the world, he still worked harder than anyone else on his game - he pushed himself beyond his limits, which helped him get to that next level.
No difference with Kobe - his work ethic still separates him from the rest of NBA superstars like LeBron or Durant, who have the same amount of pure basketball talent as he has. They aren't fully developed yet and need to work on their game, so maybe some day they will be up there with him and other NBA all-time greats.

So, like you see NIK - I'm not hating of your idol like you pretending, I'm not knocking him or nothing. I'm just trying to be OBJECTIVE - something you probably will never achieve..

Sccit:
i duno why, but callin kobe "a man playing among dudes with the same amount of talent" sounds like a jab...maybe u meant it in a different way, but that has nothin to do with me bein objective. u just made it sound like kobe was just another player in the league and the only thing that separates him is the fact that he doesnt flop lol

Chamillitary Click:

--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 31, 2013, 07:04:49 PM ---I will say one thing, I've tried to look for a while, but you can't find footage of a Kobe flop.

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http://youtube.com/v/NKuKCst6wms

And you're forgetting the millions of times he drives, draws contact, falls down and throws his hands up like the ref has to be fixing the game in order to have missed that call lol.

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 01, 2013, 06:11:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 31, 2013, 07:04:49 PM ---I will say one thing, I've tried to look for a while, but you can't find footage of a Kobe flop.

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http://youtube.com/v/NKuKCst6wms

And you're forgetting the millions of times he drives, draws contact, falls down and throws his hands up like the ref has to be fixing the game in order to have missed that call lol.

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I saw that so many times, and he fell. You can tell by his leg motion that it was fall, not a flop.

Mietek23:

--- Quote from: NIKCC on June 01, 2013, 02:28:49 PM ---i duno why, but callin kobe "a man playing among dudes with the same amount of talent" sounds like a jab...maybe u meant it in a different way, but that has nothin to do with me bein objective. u just made it sound like kobe was just another player in the league and the only thing that separates him is the fact that he doesnt flop lol

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Like I said before, talent-wise LeBron is def up there with Kobe - no question about it. Durant is also coming... Kobe is still one of the best players in the league, despite he's past his prime, but his work ethic is his secret to the longevity - that's why he's able to still hang around younger stars with fresh legs, even tho he has so many games under his belt.

I don't take jabs at anybody - I'm objective, which is something you have problem with, anytime a discussion like that pops out.

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