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What does the muslim community in general think about Syria?
Russell Bell:
--- Quote from: Infinite African Westcoastin 2012 and 13' on June 06, 2013, 02:41:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Russell Bell on June 06, 2013, 02:22:47 AM ---lol at "logical religion"
what pills u be poppin, i gotta get me some of them
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A religion based around the creation worshiping it's Creator. Sounds pretty logical to me.
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If it were true
Heinz:
--- Quote from: Aladin on June 06, 2013, 05:26:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Heinz on June 05, 2013, 11:49:48 PM ---This is slightly off topic but relates somewhat to Syria and Islam.
My friend Tariq who is a devout muslim once told me he believed that the prophet Isa (Jesus' name for muslims) was to return to earth in Damascus to kill Iblis the devil.
And that Isa himself would die in this battle to liberate humans from the devils power.
Its an interesting belief that I haven't come across elsewhere.
Anyone know more about this theory?
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On the contrary, it is not off topic.
You hit the mark there.
But a little correction. If The Messiah Isa (Jesus) returns. In islamic Escatology
He will not kill Iblis (Satan) but he will kill Dajal (The Anti-christ)
It is not only Islam that believes that the Messiah wil return, Christians and jews believe that also.
Although Jews will claim that the messiah Will be someone else and not Jesus.
@ Infinite
You are right no one knows when, Except God.
But we have 2 differentiate between the end times (the Class between Truth and Falshood)
And Day of judgement: Where we all face our responsibility for our mistakes and good deeds
The End times does not mean the End. There can be a lot of years, centuries or even thousand of years between that and the Day of judgement, God knows best.
But that said, God gave us signs about the End time and our Prophet told us about them.
I sum some interesting things he said:
- "Women will be dressed and still be naked" ...tune in on your average Rap video and you will see
- "There will be an age were people will compete in Tall Buildings".....Have you seen them?
- "Men gonna dress like women and women gonna dress like men".... I need not explaining this.
- "People are gonna fornicate in public like Donkeys" ...
- "People gonna ride on a donkey with his ears stretched out wide through the air as fast as clouds" ....Fighter Aircrafts
I can go on.
This is said more the 1400 years ago by a man who was illiterate and lived in the Desert-land of Mekka. You Might have heard of him, his name is Muhammed (saw)
But I give you one sign.... That each and every one of you must remember.
The jews were kicked out of the holy land.. By God.. according 2 their and our holy book.
Why after 2000 years have they returned? Who returned them? Was it not forbidden for them 2 return?
Why is Jerusalem NOW centre stage!!
And I end with a translated quote from our holy book:
"They have eyes but they cannot see. They have ears but they cannot hear. They have hearts but they cannot understand. They are just like cattle"
No there is nothing wrong with your eyes or ears, but if your heart fails 2 understand....I pitty you
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Yes it was Dajal my friend mentioned not Iblis, my mistake I just remembered incorrectly.
I read a book a few years ago written by a Christian scholar some 80-90 years ago (1925-1930) where he proved the validity of biblical prophesies and their manifestations.
It was a quite systematic study he had done and it lead to a climax with prophesies written down that had NOT happened and those dealt mainly with the return of Christ and the Book of Revelation. He made some very interesting interpretations regarding what had to happen BEFORE Christ would return.
This was right after 1st world war which many people took as a sure sign that Christ would return. He criticized them and said that WW1 did not fit any prophetic description.
He also predicted the 2nd world war and warned that this would NOT be the war leading up to the second coming.
Then he presented his theory of what had to happen before Christ would return.
In short he said that Europe had to fall and that the leading factor would be Greece (if you look at what is taking place today, 80-90 years after he wrote it it is interesting).
He also said that this was a smoke and mirror hiding the real Anti-Christ which would come from the east.
I don't remember the exact wording he had but it was a pretty strong reference to China.
He was very concerned with what you guys have said here: That NO ONE knows except G_d when the exact time will be.
Anyways it was a thought provoking read.
Aladin:
--- Quote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on June 06, 2013, 09:02:21 AM ---
I admit I don't know everything about Quadaffi, but from what I have read about his Green movement, and several other things including using gold backed currency, he was clearly an enemy of the west.
As I said, I def don't know all the details, but in what way was he a tyrant?
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You know he is dead now, and it is for God 2 judge him.
Even though he did a lot of good things, he helped a lot of Africa 2 be liberated, the gold that you mentioned.
But Assad and Khaddafi although both are brutal against their Opposition. They do stand for something and you got 2 respect that. They don't bow 2 the West.
Aladin:
--- Quote from: Heinz on June 06, 2013, 12:31:57 PM ---
Yes it was Dajal my friend mentioned not Iblis, my mistake I just remembered incorrectly.
I read a book a few years ago written by a Christian scholar some 80-90 years ago (1925-1930) where he proved the validity of biblical prophesies and their manifestations.
It was a quite systematic study he had done and it lead to a climax with prophesies written down that had NOT happened and those dealt mainly with the return of Christ and the Book of Revelation. He made some very interesting interpretations regarding what had to happen BEFORE Christ would return.
This was right after 1st world war which many people took as a sure sign that Christ would return. He criticized them and said that WW1 did not fit any prophetic description.
He also predicted the 2nd world war and warned that this would NOT be the war leading up to the second coming.
Then he presented his theory of what had to happen before Christ would return.
In short he said that Europe had to fall and that the leading factor would be Greece (if you look at what is taking place today, 80-90 years after he wrote it it is interesting).
He also said that this was a smoke and mirror hiding the real Anti-Christ which would come from the east.
I don't remember the exact wording he had but it was a pretty strong reference to China.
He was very concerned with what you guys have said here: That NO ONE knows except G_d when the exact time will be.
Anyways it was a thought provoking read.
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Because you use G_d and not God, I presume you are jewish.
That means you are my cousin :)
We share the same Father.
The book that you mentioned is the protestant evangelics interpretation that is still used today. These christians are the storm troops 2 the zionist movement and supported it very early on.
This strange reconciliation between Jews and (western)Christianity is very odd. Never, Never, Never were the christians allies of the jews in history.
The Christians considered the jews "God-killers"
But the last 150 years or so, they made a strange and unique alliance.
The one who tricked tthe christians into supporting the zionist movement, is the same one who tricks the jews into accepting the zionist ideology, is the same one who tricks muslims into destroying their own land and make muslims look so bad.
But let me ask you as a jew, would you accept someone 2 be the Messiah if he was not Jewish. Never!
Would you accept someone 2 be the Messiah if he didn't bring back the gold age of the time of Prophet Solomon and Prophet David. Never!
Would you accept the Messiah, if he didn't restore the state of Israel? Never!
Well then this question, if there is a false Messiah. He would have 2 trick the jews into accepting him as the real Messiah.
How can he trick you if he does not do the things I mentioned above in order for you the accept him.
No, the False Messiah will not be a chinese, he will be a jew!!
If this sounds irrationale.
Check this:
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
--- Quote from: Aladin on June 06, 2013, 02:53:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on June 06, 2013, 09:02:21 AM ---
I admit I don't know everything about Quadaffi, but from what I have read about his Green movement, and several other things including using gold backed currency, he was clearly an enemy of the west.
As I said, I def don't know all the details, but in what way was he a tyrant?
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You know he is dead now, and it is for God 2 judge him.
Even though he did a lot of good things, he helped a lot of Africa 2 be liberated, the gold that you mentioned.
But Assad and Khaddafi although both are brutal against their Opposition. They do stand for something and you got 2 respect that. They don't bow 2 the West.
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Lol I'm well aware he's dead. I asked how he was a tyrant. If you actually read about his Green movement (had nothing to do with the environment btw), it is obvious he was a very smart and beloved by his people.
Did you see what NATO did to him? They sodomized him with a knife before killing him and filmed the whole thing. Of course he was brutal to his opponents, he was constantly under attack from the West.
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