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What does the muslim community in general think about Syria?
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
--- Quote from: Sami on June 01, 2013, 03:25:12 PM ---Obama is tying up loose ends because Bashar al-Assad was Bush's main torturer from 2001-2007 and in 07 he refused to stop helping Hizbullah. Not to mention the Bushs and al-Assads have been family friends since Hafez al-Assad worked with George H.W. in the 70s (when H.W. was CIA Director) and he put Hafez in power. The Bushes and al-Assads are also intermarried. One of the al-Assads is married to George W's sister as I recall.
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Very interesting, did not know about the inter-marriage. I wonder why the media doesn't point this out? Maybe because it doesn't fit the script they are trying to sell.
TraceOneInfinite:
Virtuoso, I know you have a lot of info and sometimes you get excited and try to say everything at one time. In all that you said, I still don't know what your saying exactly, are you saying you wish for Asad to stay in power? And you realize that Hezbollah (which is lead by Nasrullah) wants Asad to stay in power while the Salafi/Wahhabi's want Asad removed from power. I didn't see you make that distinction clear enough in your post.
First, you asked what the Muslim community in general thinks about Syria. Sunni's make up the largest consensus within the Muslim world. Also, a lot of them I think tend to have similar views with that of the Muslim Brotherhood movement that has been around for decades. Therefore, to answer your question, they supported a turnover in all of these countries, from Tunisia, to Libya, Egypt, and now Syria. They viewed the regimes that had been in power as Un-Islamic, and had been hoping for many years for these regimes to fall.
I think this view is very flawed, and is having tragic consequences for Muslims. In regions like Libya they are going to cry for the good old days of Qadafi. When everything was free and life was so peaceful. Syria's war may continue on for decades, and in Egypt things are much worse now than when Mubarak was in power with little sign of returning to normal any time soon.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on June 01, 2013, 10:12:10 PM ---I support the Assad government over the "Free Syrian Army" simply because that is the lesser of two evils.
If the Salafist/Wahhabi ideology takes government in Syria, the shrines that scared us Shias will be destroyed (that of Sayyeda Zainab and Sayyeda Ruqayyah). There's a certain peace you feel in both those places that is hard to describe.
These rebels have already destroyed a couple of shrines, one related to Prophet Abraham. Its a rotten, corrupted, and misguided ideology that they have.
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I agree with you that the Salafi/Wahhabi ideology is the biggest internal threat faced by Muslims. They have been a fitnah to the Muslim Ummah ever since Abdul-Wahhab started his teachings back in the 18th Century. It started with an insurgency against the Ottoman Empire of the time and has continued ever since. Their movement is based on labeling various Muslim groups as heretics and then fiercely opposing them. Like you said, they have destroyed many important cultural and religious monuments and shrines in the Middle East and Africa.
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on June 01, 2013, 10:12:10 PM ---
On top of that, Syria is the biggest link between Iran and Lebanon/Hezbollah. If that connection breaks, it gives Israel, US, the West, and the Gulf nations an easier way to attack Iran.
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Another excellent point. Quite possibly, the grand design behind all of this may have been to get encircle Iran. First they got Afghanistan. Then they got Iraq. Now if they get Syria, they can totally encircle Iran and continue to weaken and ultimately remove them from a position of power and influence.
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on June 01, 2013, 10:12:10 PM ---
This isn't a sectarian conflict as is portrayed. These rebels with the corrupted ideology will end up going after Sunnis as well like they've done against the Shias. You look at Saudi Arabia; peaceful protests and a demand for equal rights from Sheikh (i.e. scholar) Nimr al-Nimr...it ends up in killings of Shia, the arrest of the Sheikh and potential execution. You look at Bahrain that started during the Arab Spring; the Gulf nations like Saudi sent their troops to crush the peaceful protests, unjustly jail doctors who helped those being massacred, and without reason jail protestors & human rights activists like Nabeel Rajab.
These so-called 'Muslim" nations only care for themselves: their power & wealth. They don't care for the religion. They do it for their own egos. If they honestly cared about freeing people, where's there support been for Hamas? Why aren't 'rebels' going into Palestine to defend the Palestinians who get massacred? Its simply because these governing bodies are all in it together with the US, Israel, and the West.
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You said a lot there, so I can't comment on each item, but I think you make some good points.
Aladin:
It is not about which side we are on.
Assad, Khaddafi are both Tyrants.
They were brutal against any opposition.
But In this case. In both countries....were a peaceful revolution evolves into an foreign backed & planned armed ressurection for regime-change.
We have 2 condemn the agressor.
In any country... not only Muslim countries.
These people, who are armed directly by Turkey, Qatar an Saud. And indirectly by Nato.
Are the aggressor. Any blood that is spilled is ther fault.
Any civilian hurt is their fault.
Any christian, muslim or atheist hurt, it is their fault.
They fuel the conflict.
That's why I side for the Syrian people, their courage stand against submission 2 the Zionist dominance in the region.
The people have legit demands, but not like this, killing your way through! That is NOT Islamic and should be condemned.
Heinz:
This is slightly off topic but relates somewhat to Syria and Islam.
My friend Tariq who is a devout muslim once told me he believed that the prophet Isa (Jesus' name for muslims) was to return to earth in Damascus to kill Iblis the devil.
And that Isa himself would die in this battle to liberate humans from the devils power.
Its an interesting belief that I haven't come across elsewhere.
Anyone know more about this theory?
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