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Religion and organised religion are two different things.In general I have found those that criticize religions to be incredibly uneducated and ignorant of the religions they criticize.The main argument they have is usually not with the religion but with people doing bad/evil stuff in (a) religions name.Its a lost cause discussing with people like that.There is a good quote that goes like this."There is a principle which is a bar against all information,which is proof against all argument,and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance.That principle is condemnation before investigation".
To answer the question I'd rather see my son living. Because I'm responsible for him. I didn't bring all these other Muslims into the world. It's up to Allah to take care of them, I'm not responsible. But for my son I am responsible. There's your answer dogg... and thanks for asking, cause it made me reflect, actually
As a matter of fact, that is the best answer a real dad would say. If you had said anything else I would have said that makes you a bitch. A real father would not give a fuck if everyone on earth died as long as his kid survives. It's over simplified of course, but it shows the basic though process. By clearly (finally) answering the question, my views towards your fatherhood have changed. Although you sometimes say some trollish shit such as you want your son to learn from Snoop Lion about life, your heart might actually be in the right place.So anyhow, props on the answer, and in light of your new found clarity, I am burying the hatchet, and will no longer insult you or yours.Oh, quit saying Nicca. That is all.As-salamu alaykum.
Quote from: Heinz on June 06, 2013, 12:48:44 PMReligion and organised religion are two different things.In general I have found those that criticize religions to be incredibly uneducated and ignorant of the religions they criticize.The main argument they have is usually not with the religion but with people doing bad/evil stuff in (a) religions name.Its a lost cause discussing with people like that.There is a good quote that goes like this."There is a principle which is a bar against all information,which is proof against all argument,and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance.That principle is condemnation before investigation".i was talking about organized religion, generalizing , yes. but that´s what i meant by personal belief. i got nothing against a person finding relief or peace in religion. but i think church and state should be separated because it´s easy to use the masses faith as a weapon . i have a lot of experience of different religions, mostly christians and their different sub genres so to speak. i grew up in lutheran environment , some of my family are Jehova´s witnesses and i´ve also seen a minister try to bring a drowned little kid back to life.just a few examples. also, i´ve studied a lot of different religions, out of curiosity . and i have to say i hate loudmouthed atheists as much as i hate someone preaching about how i´m going to hell . there´s no reason in debating with neither one. yes, i´m generalizing again. good quote .
Care to elaborate on the story of the minister bringing the child back to life from drowning? Sounds interesting.
November 6, 1998Finnish Lutheran vicar Markku Koivisto prayed over the body of a drowned child and led parishioners in an all-night vigil aimed at resurrecting him.An ambulance that had been called to his aid drove into a ditch and a medical helicopter that was sent to the scene flew to the wrong place.The vicar was rebuked by his bishop for the display, although the entire Christian religion revolves around Christ's claim to have defeated death.
the only thing i could find about the incident in english was this : http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/alleluyuk.htmQuoteNovember 6, 1998Finnish Lutheran vicar Markku Koivisto prayed over the body of a drowned child and led parishioners in an all-night vigil aimed at resurrecting him.An ambulance that had been called to his aid drove into a ditch and a medical helicopter that was sent to the scene flew to the wrong place.The vicar was rebuked by his bishop for the display, although the entire Christian religion revolves around Christ's claim to have defeated death.not a reliable source, i know but if you´re interested i can translate a news article for you . the ambulance and helicopter bit sounds a bit weird since the kid was already buried. i saw a sermon of his about the issue but the attempt to resurrect the child in the cemetary was something i didn´t want to take any part in . it happened later that night if i recall right.they thought the kid was the new Jesus or something like that.
Back when I visited Finland we drove from the north of Sweden and took a ferry across.I was the map reader for the trip and navigated us through the beautiful finnish countryside.But one thing kept confusing me, besides the language which is so far from the languages I know, and this was that to every place we came to there was a sign pointing towards the "town" of Keskusta.I tried finding that town on my map to locate our direction.After the 5-6th town we came to I got quite upset at this damned Keskusta ghost town not located on any map and cursed it out.I felt like a fool when I found out Keskusta meant the city centre...Met up with Aki Kaurismäki in Tampere. He was a rather strange fellow.