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It's time....the elite have started turning on Obama
virtuoso:
When someone lacks the basic ability to reason information and instead sees their peers as some kind of trusted parental figure, then mindless moronic masses is an appropriate description. You may disagree with it, but that is why base level propaganda works so well, that is why the information and even body language appears so transparent, it's because they don't need to up their game in order to fool the majority.
Heinz:
I disagree with taking the position of a besswerwisser and using negatively charged words like mindless moronic masses.
When you do that you thread dangerous ground where seeds of arrogance rapidly sprout from the soil.
To turn things around: Who do you think has the same conception about the masses?
The ones you criticize here for being evil and Luciferic.
virtuoso:
Not seeds of arrogance, seeds of frustration, it brings me no kind of comfort to realise that there are so many people who have just been made into little like zombies.
If a mass murderer preaches to me that murder is wrong, it doesn't invalidate that statement. Similarly with the parasite class conveying a message of useless eaters, it doesn't mean they are wrong to say that as it's patently true. However where that is a complete disparity lies in how the cancer views humanity as a whole with disdain whereas I care enough to be pissed by it. When I convey in a calm, concise simple manner to people the realities and they just don't want to hear it, can't compute it. can't fathom it, have never even considered it, dismiss, brush it off, no, it's not arrogance.
I guess what you could say is it's despair.
Aladin:
You are both intelligent men.
And both of you make solid points.
I understand Heinz when he says, that we must not fight negativity with negativity. Two wrongs don't make it right.
And I also understand Virtuoso when he says that ignoring it, as I see it is like an ostrich sticking his head in the sand.
Both have positive and negative.
If you concentrate 2 much on it.. it will consume you and make you bitter.
If you ignore it... you will distance yourself 2 much 2 even care.
So my opinion...choose the balanced middle path.
In the end God knows best.
Heinz:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on June 16, 2013, 12:26:24 PM ---
Not seeds of arrogance, seeds of frustration, it brings me no kind of comfort to realise that there are so many people who have just been made into little like zombies.
If a mass murderer preaches to me that murder is wrong, it doesn't invalidate that statement. Similarly with the parasite class conveying a message of useless eaters, it doesn't mean they are wrong to say that as it's patently true. However where that is a complete disparity lies in how the cancer views humanity as a whole with disdain whereas I care enough to be pissed by it. When I convey in a calm, concise simple manner to people the realities and they just don't want to hear it, can't compute it. can't fathom it, have never even considered it, dismiss, brush it off, no, it's not arrogance.
I guess what you could say is it's despair.
--- End quote ---
Why should they listen to someone who calls and views them as mindless morons?
Here is another quote, this time by a fool I once knew:
"The things you get annoyed by are the things you get controlled by".
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