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Jesus Christ, Egypt just overthrew another leader, wtf????
heyyou:
I'm sorry infinite, I enjoy reading your posts even though I may not agree with you all the time, but the Egyptian people were right to overthrown morsi.
He is just another puppet of the west just like Mubarak. They just appear to look like opposites - the old Hegelian dialectic being played out. The Egyptian generally people don't want to live under sharia law from what I can tell. Morsi and his Muslim brotherhood support are still backed by the US just like Mubarak, but the people worldwide are starting to get more street smart on the tactics the elite use to give the illusion of democracy and they are not willing to get played.
The problem they have is will it descend into civil war and will they replace their leader with someone just as bad or worse again.
Russell Bell:
i truly believe that these people (middle east) and their countries are just going to be unstable and war torn for a very very long time regardless
a combo of their religion and meddling from the un and the us has doomed them to a pretty shitty existence, for many of them at least
which is why we need to stay the fuck away from them and let them fight for their own land and rights
i cant see any scenario thats realistic why we should invest one cent in their interests when we have the problems we do here in the US
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
--- Quote from: heyyou on July 07, 2013, 12:50:56 AM ---I'm sorry infinite, I enjoy reading your posts even though I may not agree with you all the time, but the Egyptian people were right to overthrown morsi.
He is just another puppet of the west just like Mubarak. They just appear to look like opposites - the old Hegelian dialectic being played out. The Egyptian generally people don't want to live under sharia law from what I can tell. Morsi and his Muslim brotherhood support are still backed by the US just like Mubarak, but the people worldwide are starting to get more street smart on the tactics the elite use to give the illusion of democracy and they are not willing to get played.
The problem they have is will it descend into civil war and will they replace their leader with someone just as bad or worse again.
--- End quote ---
Very good post, props on understanding the problem-reaction-solution/Hegelian Dialectic.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: heyyou on July 07, 2013, 12:50:56 AM ---I'm sorry infinite, I enjoy reading your posts even though I may not agree with you all the time, but the Egyptian people were right to overthrown morsi.
He is just another puppet of the west just like Mubarak. They just appear to look like opposites - the old Hegelian dialectic being played out. The Egyptian generally people don't want to live under sharia law from what I can tell. Morsi and his Muslim brotherhood support are still backed by the US just like Mubarak, but the people worldwide are starting to get more street smart on the tactics the elite use to give the illusion of democracy and they are not willing to get played.
The problem they have is will it descend into civil war and will they replace their leader with someone just as bad or worse again.
--- End quote ---
How can you disagree with me and then conclude with the statement... "the problem they have is...." which basically states the same shit I've been saying.
...My purpose of posting wasn't to back Morsi. My purpose for posting was that the Egyptian people are ramming their head into a brick wall trying to make shit better, they are actually making shit worse. If they hated Morsi so much, then in a democracy you can vote that person out in the next election. But what fucking sense does it make to celebrate a coup and a military takeover when just two years ago you were protesting against the military seizing control and they threw out Mubarak who was an extension of the military...
The Egyptians are just fighting themselves and banging their heads against the wall. It's looking like all the lives wasted has been in vain and that they should've just left "well enough" alone and stayed with Mubarak. Judging from the way things have transpired they are going to be looking back on the "good old days of Mubarak".
btw... don't contradict yourself, is Morsi an Islamist or is Morsi a puppet of the West? How can you say he's there puppet when America bankrolled his overthrow? http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/07/2013710113522489801.html
heyyou:
I don't think I'm contradicting myself, the people I believe genuinely want change from the corrupt politicians.
I don't believe elections are fair in any country. They are rigged. Why I say that is it costs major major money to run, so those who donate the money control the strings and ultimately who gets in power. They wouldn't donate to those who will negatively effect them in future policies.
They label secular an Islamist is getting used like we use Labour and conservative or democrat and republican. The people are hopefully realising that these labels don't actually mean much as they are effectively controlled by the same puppets.
Morsi is both an Islamist and a puppet for the west. What's so difficult to understand? Look at the Syrian rebels the US and UK are backing. Aren't many of them the extremists, al queda sympathizers and hate the west? The US doesn't care who runs the country on a day to day basis as long as they keep the people in check and overall help western interests.
Check the immortal technique interview with Alex Jones, he explains it very well when he says- we aren't against extremist islam and we arent against communism, as they are very close to Saudi Arabia and china. We are against those who say no to our corporate interests.
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