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Fraxxx:

--- Quote from: bouli77 on July 16, 2013, 03:43:56 AM ---
--- Quote from: Fraxxx on July 16, 2013, 03:28:56 AM ---

Of course, the verdict for Zimmerman must be not guilty if they can't prove the opposite. But you gotta be a nutjob if you're following around "suspicious" people with a gun on you when the cops told you not to. And no matter what Trayvon Martin might have done on another occasion, he is dead and Zimmerman has to go through all this shit right now (including having taken a life!) just because he's a pathetic wannabe.

I don't even care if shooting in that situation was  justified, it very well might have been. But the mindstate you gotta be in to act like he did beforehand is scary. That people don't find it strange/suspect, that he was running around with a gun playing police, that is scary.

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I was with you the whole time Fraxxx until you said "running around with a gun playing police", because he's a neighborhood watch, that's his job.

What bothers me with this case is how people blew up this minor incident. Of course it's sad and all, but it happens everyday everywhere. Just because the media blew this up you have people crying, devastated and shit when they don't know what happened for sure (they're just "assuming") and that doesn't affect their lives in the slightest, you have shit 10x more important happening everyday, likely to affect everybody's lives in a much worse way and yet people are yelling "justice for trayvon". In the end two lives are ruined because of this bs, Trayvon Martin's and Zimmerman's. The only thing we know for sure is that he did kill Trayvon but there are things we'll never know. But Zimmerman's life is already ruined, too.

I don't know all the specifics in this case but getting away with killing someone without a conviction seems rather strange to me. He should at least have been charged with manslaughter and sentenced to prison because there's one thing for sure, he did kill Trayvon Martin.

I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people, including some of my favorite's rappers.

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No, that's not his job. I know what you mean but that's exactly what I'm saying. Why do you gotta have a gun when your job is to report certain suspicious incidents to the police? Seeing how the whole thing went so wrong, I'd say he didn't handled the situation like he was supposed to.

As to why everybody is getting so emotional about that case... I said the same regarding the political discourse in the U.S., it seems like people have forgotten how to discuss anything in a factual, adult manner. Everything gets so ridiculously sensationalized and for some reason to many people that appears like the normal way to handle any disagreement.

The poor educational system for sure ain't helping. The U.S. is only the spearhead, though, Germany is taking the same route. I don't know about other European countries.

Edit: Regarding your last point: He's simply innocent until proven guilt. There's no witness that could discount Z's claim that his life was in danger and he had to shoot.

Sccit:

--- Quote from: Infinite African Westcoastin 2012 and 13' on July 15, 2013, 11:27:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on July 15, 2013, 11:37:26 AM ---SO INFINITE, U THINK ZIMMERMAN WAS RIGHT IN KILLING DUDE?

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I don't know.
 
My opinion is that we have courts for a reason, so that people don't just get lynched by an angry mob in an emotional frenzy.  You have a jury that divorces themselves from emotions, and sits and looks at the facts and evidence regarding the case.  Then, they only send a person to prison if the prosecution can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they committed murder.  I trust the judgement of the jurors in this case more than my own judgement as they were there and saw the evidence and they know more about the case then I do.



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LOL IF U BELIEVE IN THE COURT SYSTEM, THEN U HAVE ANOTHER THING COMIN

Sccit:

--- Quote from: Nutty on July 15, 2013, 11:54:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on July 15, 2013, 06:34:03 PM ---
I personally think zimmerman pulled the gun out right when trayvon asked him if he had a problem .


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True, didn't think of that.

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IT'S COMMON SENSE IN A WAY...IF U HAD A GAT AND SOME DUDE APPROACHED U LIKE HE WAS GUNA FUCK U UP SAYIN "U GOT A PROBLEM NOW HOMIE?", U'D PULL THAT SHIT RIGHT AWAY.


ZIMMERMAN WAS A PIECE OF SHIT WANNABE PIG AND HAD NO BUSINESS DOIN WHAT HE WAS DOIN, THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT.

Sccit:

--- Quote from: bouli77 on July 16, 2013, 03:43:56 AM ---I don't know all the specifics in this case but getting away with killing someone without a conviction seems rather strange to me. He should at least have been charged with manslaughter and sentenced to prison because there's one thing for sure, he did kill Trayvon Martin.


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YUP...U KILL SOME1, U GO TO JAIL. SIMPLE AS THAT.

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: NIKCC on July 16, 2013, 10:31:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nutty on July 15, 2013, 11:54:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on July 15, 2013, 06:34:03 PM ---
I personally think zimmerman pulled the gun out right when trayvon asked him if he had a problem .


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True, didn't think of that.

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IT'S COMMON SENSE IN A WAY...IF U HAD A GAT AND SOME DUDE APPROACHED U LIKE HE WAS GUNA FUCK U UP SAYIN "U GOT A PROBLEM NOW HOMIE?", U'D PULL THAT SHIT RIGHT AWAY.


ZIMMERMAN WAS A PIECE OF SHIT WANNABE PIG AND HAD NO BUSINESS DOIN WHAT HE WAS DOIN, THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT.

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God damn, I can't even agree with NIK on the Lakers and we are both fans. Now I agree with this. Is the world going to end?

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