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Sccit:
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 06, 2013, 08:44:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on August 06, 2013, 12:17:32 PM ---
I STARTED OUT THINKIN UR A QUALITY POSTER, BUT UR ACTUALLY QUITE SLOW IF U DONT GET WHAT IM SAYING BY NOW
http://www.82games.com/1213/12MIA9.HTM
LEBRON JAMES=35% OF HIS SHOTS COME INSIDE THEN ANOTHER 27%=COMES CLOSE TO THE BASKET WITH 7% BEING DUNKS
http://www.82games.com/1011/10LAL5.HTM
IN COMPARISON, KOBE=15% OF HIS SHOTS COME INSIDE THEN ANOTHER 14%=COMES CLOSE TO THE BASKET WITH 2% BEING DUNKS
NOW DO LIKE DUBEE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND MEEEEE, CUZ U ACTIN HELLA DUMB RIGHT NOW.....NO OFFENSE AT ALL, BUT IF U DONT SEE THAT THOSE STATS FIT MY CLAIM OF LEBRON PLAYING THE TRADITIONAL SMALL FORWARD STYLE, WHILE KOBE IS GENERALLY PLAYING LIKE A SHOOTING GUARD, THEN U REALLY DONT NEED TO BE REPLYING. U CAN REALIZE THIS BY NOTING TO URSELF THAT THE MORE EXCITED U GET YOUNG CHAM, THE DUMBER UR POSTS ARE.
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Oh no! I'm no longer considered a quality poster by you. The sorrow! The pain! The agony...
Anyway. I've stated that LeBron goes to the rim more than Kobe. I never said he didn't. You contend that it's based on LeBron's position that he shoots better. Top 10 Players for Attempts at the Rim: 5 Centers. 1 PF. 2 SF. 1 SG & 1 PG. That second SF? Carmelo. And he shot under 45% for the season. It's not because of Position. It's not ONLY because of playing in the paint. Because if that was the case, then guys like Kenneth Faried and Thaddeus Young should have higher shooting percentages.
So, see, when you generalize things, you don't actually get the whole picture. Is LeBron's shooting percentage higher because he's able to get to rim more? Sure. Is that the only reason why? No. Not at all. He put up 250+ 3's. There is not a Small Forward in the league, or any player ever, who has done what LeBron did last year.
I'll lower the FG% to 50. There was quite a few instances of players shooting over 50% and putting up at least 250 3's. 0 Centers. 0 PF. 4 SF. 5 SG. 4 PG. So, as you can see, more Shooting Guards averaged over 50 or better from the field and put up at least 250 3's than Small Forwards.
So do like Dubee and please understand meeeeeeeee, cuz you actin' hella dumb right now. You've generalized and it hasn't worked. LeBron is not a traditional SF. His shooting percentage has less to do with position and far more to do with the higher percentage shots (be it at the Rim or Jumpers).
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I'M NOT SAYING IT'S "ONLY" CUZ HE'S A SMALL FORWARD LOL...THE WAY TO TELL A WEAK DEBATER IS SOMEONE WHO PUTS WORDS IN UR MOUTH TO PROVE A POINT, WHICH UV DONE TIME AND TIME AGAIN. IS BEING A SMALL FORWARD AS OPPOSED TO A SHOOTING GUARD THE ONLY FACTOR? NO...BUT IT IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR, AND U'D BE FOOLISH TO DENY THIS....NOW UR DOIN THE SAME THING AGAIN, BRINGING UP A BUNCH OF USELESS STATS TO TRY AND PROVE MY TRUTHS AS WRONG....I CAN UNDERSTAND U, NO DOUBT, UR DOIN WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TRY AND WIN A BATTLE THAT CANNOT BE WON.....BECAUSE I'M RIGHT. AND THAT DOESNT NECESSARILY MEAN UR WRONG, BUT U TRYNA PROVE ME WRONG WILL NOT END WELL FOR U WHEN WHAT I SAY IS NOTHIN BUT TRUTHS.
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 06, 2013, 08:44:42 PM ---
--- Quote ---DAMN, REALLY?? THATS GROUNDBREAKING...AND LEBRON IS A WORSE PASSER THAN RONDO, A WORSE SHOOTER THAN RAY ALLEN, A WORSE BALL-HANDLER THAN CHRIS PAUL, AND A WORSE POST PLAYER THAN BROOK LOPEZ......ARE WE STATING THE OBVIOUS HERE? WHAT IS THIS NOW??
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OOOH so obvious examples and correlations you don't like? But, you were OK with comparing guys who rarely worked outside of 10 Feet of the Rim as a way of proving your point for FG% right? See, you contradict yourself far too much. First, it's "Well Shaq shot better than Jordan" and "The bigger you are the more rebounds you get." But, when comparisons are then put on to Kobe it's "Gee, how obvious!" Point is, you said that with size, on average, comes better rebounding. I showed you otherwise. Instead of addressing it, you try to change the subject. Doesn't work like that.
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THE OBVIOUS IS THE OBVIOUS...I DUNO WHAT UR TRYNA GET AT HERE. IT'S TRUE THAT I SAID WITH SIZE, ON AVERAGE, COMES BETTER REBOUNDING... YOU DIDNT SHOW ME OTHERWISE, U SHOWED ME ARBITRARY EXAMPLES TO TRY AND PROVE THAT FACT WRONG...LEARN THE DIFFERENCE, GENIUS.
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 06, 2013, 08:44:42 PM ---
--- Quote ---POINT IS, FOR THOSE 16 MINUTES, BORIS DIAW WAS GUARDING LEBRON JAMES 1-ON-1 WITH A 5 FOOT CUSHION....THERES NO WAY THE ALLEGED BEST PLAYER IN THE WOLRD SHOULD BE DEFENDED LIKE THAT.......IN THE FINALS. NOT EVEN FOR 2 MINUTES....BUT IT HAPPENED....AND WHY DID IT HAPPEN? BECAUSE LEBRON WAS PLAYING POOR OFFENSIVELY TO THE POINT POPOVICH WASNT EVEN WORRIED ABOUT HIM FROM A SCORING STANDPOINT! U CAN REST ASSURE THAT A KOBE BRYANT OR A MICHAEL JORDAN WOULD NEVER... EVEERRRR...EVEREVEREVER BE GUARDED BY BORIS DIAW IN THE FINALS.... WITH SINGLE COVERAGE LOL. JUST ADMIT IT AND MOVE ALONG, IT AINT THAT HARD.
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Sure, Diaw defended LeBron well. But, Pop didn't do that because he wasn't worried. He did that because he had no other choice. LeBron had his way in games 4-7 with all the other defenders. Big difference. He gambled because the spacing worked in the Spurs favor. They could provide an additional defender if needed and they were still able to pack the paint, forcing LeBron to either pass or take a bad shot. Yet, LeBron still had great games. Again, you're not telling the whole story.
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THIS IS WHY I CANT TAKE U SERIOUS...U SAID LEBRON HAD HIS WAY IN GAMES 4-7, WHEN IT WAS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT FATBOY DIAW ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO SHUT HIM DOWN IN GAME 5:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1675803-how-boris-diaw-shut-down-lebron-james-in-game-5-of-nba-finals
http://www.businessinsider.com/boris-diaw-shuts-down-lebron-james-2013-6
LOL...FACT REMAINS, ONCE A FUCKIN GAIN, BORIS DIAW SHOULD NOT BE GUARDING LEBRON IN THE FINALS WITH SINGLE COVERAGE, MY BUD
BOTTOM LINE, JAMES WAS STRUGGLING THROUGH GAME 6...HE WAS SHOOTING 43% AT THAT POINT. JUST LOOK AT THIS PIECE I CAME ACROSS RIGHT NOW WHEN SEARCHING "BORIS DIAW GUARDING LEBRON"
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2013/06/lebron-james-struggling-with-his-shot-in-the-nba-finals/
LMAO.
whoisthis:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on August 07, 2013, 08:23:35 AM ---
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S "ONLY" CUZ HE'S A SMALL FORWARD LOL...THE WAY TO TELL A WEAK DEBATER IS SOMEONE WHO PUTS WORDS IN UR MOUTH TO PROVE A POINT, WHICH UV DONE TIME AND TIME AGAIN. IS BEING A SMALL FORWARD AS OPPOSED TO A SHOOTING GUARD THE ONLY FACTOR? NO...BUT IT IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR, AND U'D BE FOOLISH TO DENY THIS....NOW UR DOIN THE SAME THING AGAIN, BRINGING UP A BUNCH OF USELESS STATS TO TRY AND PROVE MY TRUTHS AS WRONG....I CAN UNDERSTAND U, NO DOUBT, UR DOIN WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TRY AND WIN A BATTLE THAT CANNOT BE WON.....BECAUSE I'M RIGHT. AND THAT DOESNT NECESSARILY MEAN UR WRONG, BUT U TRYNA PROVE ME WRONG WILL NOT END WELL FOR U WHEN WHAT I SAY IS NOTHIN BUT TRUTHS.
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See, when a person has no clue how to debate whatsoever, they forget things they say.
--- Quote ---HE'S A SMALL FORWARD AND A PASS-FIRST PLAYER, WHICH MEANS HIS FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE WILL NATURALLY BE HIGHER.
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--- Quote ---JUST LIKE CENTERS, ON AVERAGE, SHOOT HIGHER PERCENTAGES THAN SMALL FORWARDS...SURE, U CAN PULL UP ROY HIBBERT'S STATS AND SAY "WELL, LOOK, SOME CENTERS SHOOT LOW PERCENTAGES 2", BUT FACT REMAINS, ON AVERAGE, SMALL FORWARDS NATURALLY SHOOT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN SHOOTING GUARDS
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Those are your words. Not mine. I showed you numbers that prove that Small Forwards and Shooting Guards, TODAY, are not that different when it comes to where they play and how they shoot. You call those stats useless. You present an opinion as a fact or a truth. I show numbers to disprove said "truth." You call them useless. Another sign of someone who lacks the ability to truly debate.
--- Quote ---THE OBVIOUS IS THE OBVIOUS...I DUNO WHAT UR TRYNA GET AT HERE. IT'S TRUE THAT I SAID WITH SIZE, ON AVERAGE, COMES BETTER REBOUNDING... YOU DIDNT SHOW ME OTHERWISE, U SHOWED ME ARBITRARY EXAMPLES TO TRY AND PROVE THAT FACT WRONG...LEARN THE DIFFERENCE, GENIUS.
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So, you can make the comparison to Shaq and Mike or Magic and Mike and it's OK and it's not just some arbitrary example. Yet, when I do the same, there's an issue. So, if I'm a sarcastic "genius" what does that make you? It's funny because only you can generalize or state obvious facts as a way to prove a point. But, let someone else do so...
My point of Kidd, Rondo and the like was not to state the obvious. It was more to state that your generalizations aren't always true. Some of the best Rebounders in the league are not the biggest. Are not the tallest. Are not the strongest. There's a reason why guys like Shawn Bradley, Manute Bol, Muresan, Yao, Mark Eaton, Rik Smits, Ralph Sampson etc. never led the league in Rebounding. It's to be expected that with Size comes more rebounding, but it is not a given. YOU are generalizing it as such. And, again, when there are stats to prove otherwise, you try to disregard them. Re-Think your thought process, genius.
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THIS IS WHY I CANT TAKE U SERIOUS...U SAID LEBRON HAD HIS WAY IN GAMES 4-7, WHEN IT WAS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT FATBOY DIAW ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO SHUT HIM DOWN IN GAME 5:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1675803-how-boris-diaw-shut-down-lebron-james-in-game-5-of-nba-finals
http://www.businessinsider.com/boris-diaw-shuts-down-lebron-james-2013-6
LOL...FACT REMAINS, ONCE A FUCKIN GAIN, BORIS DIAW SHOULD NOT BE GUARDING LEBRON IN THE FINALS WITH SINGLE COVERAGE, MY BUD
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Reading Comprehension my friend. LeBron had his way with OTHER defenders. This is the exact why NOBODY takes you serious. You lack the simple tools needed to have a normal conversation. Are we talking about clear outs here where Diaw and LeBron are the only folks on that side of the floor single coverage or are we talking a congested paint and mid range area single coverage? Because they mean 2 different things.
--- Quote ---Sure, Diaw defended LeBron well.
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The acknowledgement that Diaw played LeBron well.
--- Quote ---But, Pop didn't do that because he wasn't worried. He did that because he had no other choice. LeBron had his way in games 4-7 with all the other defenders. Big difference. He gambled because the spacing worked in the Spurs favor.
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The explanation as to why Pop felt it necessary to gamble. He used many defenders on LeBron. What he needed was a body big enough to stop LeBron from muscling his way in. He needed a veteran to stay disciplined and not let LeBron get a first step. Diaw giving a cushion fits that bill. It was a gamble. Had it not worked, people like you would be saying "yeah, well he was defended by Boris Diaw, so who cares what he scored." Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
--- Quote ---BOTTOM LINE, JAMES WAS STRUGGLING THROUGH GAME 6...HE WAS SHOOTING 43% AT THAT POINT. JUST LOOK AT THIS PIECE I CAME ACROSS RIGHT NOW WHEN SEARCHING "BORIS DIAW GUARDING LEBRON"
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2013/06/lebron-james-struggling-with-his-shot-in-the-nba-finals/
LMAO.
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Struggling through Game 6? Well that's false. Game 4 33/11/4 2 steals, 2 blocks on 15/25. Game 5 25/6/8 4 steals on 8/22. You can say struggling offensively, but what about his rebounding? Assists? Defense? No mention of that.
The Bottom line of this conversation is that you knock LeBron for his Game 6, but do not do the same to Kobe's Game 7. That is the what started this road. And yet, you still are doing it. All that matters is the end result in a game. LeBron hit a big 3 and missed a big 3 with less and a minute left and got bailed out by a teammate grabbing a big Offensive board and another hitting a big 3. Kobe missed a big 3 with less than a minute, got bailed out by a teammate grabbing a big Offensive board and another hitting a big 3.
And ultimately, their lines looked like this:
32/10/11 11/26-1/5-9/12 42%/25%/75%
23/15/2 6/24-0/6-11/15 25%/0%/73%
Now, I've already showed you how both games ended. They both ended in a win. 1 guy scored more, shot better from all spots and assisted better, ending with a triple double. The other shot far worse from all around, including missing all 3's, rebounded well, but only hit 1 field goal in the entire 4th quarter. And, this is how you breakdown the games:
LeBron's Game 6
--- Quote ---THIS WAS THE GAME WHERE HE WAS TERRIBLE UP UNTIL THE HEADBAND FELL OFF...I ALREADY SAID I'D COUNT IT AS A GOOD GAME, BUT IF RAY ALLEN DONT HIT THAT THREE, IT GOES DOWN AS A BAD GAME (HE COLLECTED A GOOD PORTION OF HIS STATS IN OVERTIME) AND THE SERIES IS OVER WITH LEBRON ONLY DOING GOOD IN 1 OUT OF 6 GAMES! WELL...I CAN TELL U ONE THING, GOD WAS ON HIS SIDE. CUZ ONCE TIM DUNCAN WAS BENCHED+BOSH HAD THE CHANCE TO GRAB THAT REBOUND+RAY ALLEN HIT THAT 3 TO TIE IT=LEBRON WAS GIVEN 1 MORE CHANCE... AND HE DID THE MOST WITH IT. STILL, I'M NOT GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE HE WASNT STRUGGLING MOST OF THE TIME PRIOR TO THE HEADBAND FALLING. THIN LINES DONT EXIST.
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Kobe's Game 7
--- Quote ---THE INFAMOUS "BAD SHOOTING" GAME, WHICH WAS SALVAGED BY AN EXCEPTIONAL 15 REBOUND GAME IN A SERIES WHERE REBOUNDING DECIDED EVERY GAME
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And you want to be taken serious.
It's obvious that you do not want to give LeBron any props. You'll find any season to put him down. There's no point in continuing. I'm going to end this conversation and move forward because your Shucking and Jiving is out of control.
Chamillitary Click:
LMAOOOOOO.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 07, 2013, 09:22:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on August 07, 2013, 08:23:35 AM ---
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S "ONLY" CUZ HE'S A SMALL FORWARD LOL...THE WAY TO TELL A WEAK DEBATER IS SOMEONE WHO PUTS WORDS IN UR MOUTH TO PROVE A POINT, WHICH UV DONE TIME AND TIME AGAIN. IS BEING A SMALL FORWARD AS OPPOSED TO A SHOOTING GUARD THE ONLY FACTOR? NO...BUT IT IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR, AND U'D BE FOOLISH TO DENY THIS....NOW UR DOIN THE SAME THING AGAIN, BRINGING UP A BUNCH OF USELESS STATS TO TRY AND PROVE MY TRUTHS AS WRONG....I CAN UNDERSTAND U, NO DOUBT, UR DOIN WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TRY AND WIN A BATTLE THAT CANNOT BE WON.....BECAUSE I'M RIGHT. AND THAT DOESNT NECESSARILY MEAN UR WRONG, BUT U TRYNA PROVE ME WRONG WILL NOT END WELL FOR U WHEN WHAT I SAY IS NOTHIN BUT TRUTHS.
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See, when a person has no clue how to debate whatsoever, they forget things they say.
--- Quote ---HE'S A SMALL FORWARD AND A PASS-FIRST PLAYER, WHICH MEANS HIS FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE WILL NATURALLY BE HIGHER.
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--- Quote ---JUST LIKE CENTERS, ON AVERAGE, SHOOT HIGHER PERCENTAGES THAN SMALL FORWARDS...SURE, U CAN PULL UP ROY HIBBERT'S STATS AND SAY "WELL, LOOK, SOME CENTERS SHOOT LOW PERCENTAGES 2", BUT FACT REMAINS, ON AVERAGE, SMALL FORWARDS NATURALLY SHOOT A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN SHOOTING GUARDS
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Those are your words. Not mine. I showed you numbers that prove that Small Forwards and Shooting Guards, TODAY, are not that different when it comes to where they play and how they shoot. You call those stats useless. You present an opinion as a fact or a truth. I show numbers to disprove said "truth." You call them useless. Another sign of someone who lacks the ability to truly debate.
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ARE U MENTALLY RETARDED? LOL...SERIOUSLY? BECAUSE I DID SAY THAT BEING A SMALL FORWARD IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR, BUT NEVER CLAIMED IT WAS THE ONLY REASON. THEN I POSTED UP NUMBERS TO PROVE THAT SMALL FORWARDS, ON AVERAGE, SHOOT HIGHER PERCENTAGES NATURALLY....SO IF U DONT UNDERSTAND THAT AND CONTINUE BATTLING IT, THEN YES, U ARE RETARDED.
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 07, 2013, 09:22:30 AM ---
--- Quote ---THE OBVIOUS IS THE OBVIOUS...I DUNO WHAT UR TRYNA GET AT HERE. IT'S TRUE THAT I SAID WITH SIZE, ON AVERAGE, COMES BETTER REBOUNDING... YOU DIDNT SHOW ME OTHERWISE, U SHOWED ME ARBITRARY EXAMPLES TO TRY AND PROVE THAT FACT WRONG...LEARN THE DIFFERENCE, GENIUS.
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So, you can make the comparison to Shaq and Mike or Magic and Mike and it's OK and it's not just some arbitrary example. Yet, when I do the same, there's an issue. So, if I'm a sarcastic "genius" what does that make you? It's funny because only you can generalize or state obvious facts as a way to prove a point. But, let someone else do so...
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HERES THE PROBLEM....WHAT UR DOING IS COMPLETELY RETARDED. I WAS GENERALIZING AND BRINGIN UP EXAMPLES OF HOW DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND DIFFERENT TYPE OF PLAYERS WILL SHOOT DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES. NOT ARBITRARY EXAMPLES. YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, CAME IN HERE BRINGING UP ATYPICAL EXAMPLES, SUCH AS JASON KIDD BEING A GREAT REBOUNDER FOR HIS SIZE.... NOT ONLY IS THAT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S ALSO RETARDED.
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 07, 2013, 09:22:30 AM ---My point of Kidd, Rondo and the like was not to state the obvious. It was more to state that your generalizations aren't always true. Some of the best Rebounders in the league are not the biggest. Are not the tallest. Are not the strongest. There's a reason why guys like Shawn Bradley, Manute Bol, Muresan, Yao, Mark Eaton, Rik Smits, Ralph Sampson etc. never led the league in Rebounding. It's to be expected that with Size comes more rebounding, but it is not a given. YOU are generalizing it as such. And, again, when there are stats to prove otherwise, you try to disregard them. Re-Think your thought process, genius.
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LOL MORE RETARDEDNESS....I ALREADY STATED THAT BEING BIG DOESNT NECESSARILY MAKE U A BETTER REBOUNDER ON ITS OWN. BUT TYPICALLY, THE BIGGER U ARE, THE MORE ADVANTAGE U HAVE FOR REBOUNDING...ONLY A RETARDED RETARD WOULD ARGUE THIS+U SUCK ASS AT DEBATING.
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 07, 2013, 09:22:30 AM ---THIS IS WHY I CANT TAKE U SERIOUS...U SAID LEBRON HAD HIS WAY IN GAMES 4-7, WHEN IT WAS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT FATBOY DIAW ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO SHUT HIM DOWN IN GAME 5:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1675803-how-boris-diaw-shut-down-lebron-james-in-game-5-of-nba-finals
http://www.businessinsider.com/boris-diaw-shuts-down-lebron-james-2013-6
LOL...FACT REMAINS, ONCE A FUCKIN GAIN, BORIS DIAW SHOULD NOT BE GUARDING LEBRON IN THE FINALS WITH SINGLE COVERAGE, MY BUD
Reading Comprehension my friend. LeBron had his way with OTHER defenders. This is the exact why NOBODY takes you serious. You lack the simple tools needed to have a normal conversation. Are we talking about clear outs here where Diaw and LeBron are the only folks on that side of the floor single coverage or are we talking a congested paint and mid range area single coverage? Because they mean 2 different things.
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I DONT GET WHAT UR POINT IS HERE? SOUNDS LIKE MORE RETARD TALK TO ME, BUT ARE U SOMEHOW DISPROVING THE FACT THAT LEBRON WAS GUARDED BY DIAW WITH SINGLE COVERAGE? ARE U SOMEHOW DISPROVING THE FACT THAT LEBRON UNDERPERFORMED THROUGH 5 GAMES?? NO...UR JUST YAPPIN AWAY TO GIVE CHAM ANOTHER BONER. IF U AINT GOT SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY, SHUT UR MOUTH.
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 07, 2013, 09:22:30 AM ---
--- Quote ---Sure, Diaw defended LeBron well.
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The acknowledgement that Diaw played LeBron well.
--- Quote ---But, Pop didn't do that because he wasn't worried. He did that because he had no other choice. LeBron had his way in games 4-7 with all the other defenders. Big difference. He gambled because the spacing worked in the Spurs favor.
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The explanation as to why Pop felt it necessary to gamble. He used many defenders on LeBron. What he needed was a body big enough to stop LeBron from muscling his way in. He needed a veteran to stay disciplined and not let LeBron get a first step. Diaw giving a cushion fits that bill. It was a gamble. Had it not worked, people like you would be saying "yeah, well he was defended by Boris Diaw, so who cares what he scored." Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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HE WAS GUARDED BY BORIS DIAW WITH SINGLE COVERAGE
LMAO
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 07, 2013, 09:22:30 AM ---
--- Quote ---BOTTOM LINE, JAMES WAS STRUGGLING THROUGH GAME 6...HE WAS SHOOTING 43% AT THAT POINT. JUST LOOK AT THIS PIECE I CAME ACROSS RIGHT NOW WHEN SEARCHING "BORIS DIAW GUARDING LEBRON"
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2013/06/lebron-james-struggling-with-his-shot-in-the-nba-finals/
LMAO.
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Struggling through Game 6? Well that's false. Game 4 33/11/4 2 steals, 2 blocks on 15/25. Game 5 25/6/8 4 steals on 8/22. You can say struggling offensively, but what about his rebounding? Assists? Defense? No mention of that.
The Bottom line of this conversation is that you knock LeBron for his Game 6, but do not do the same to Kobe's Game 7. That is the what started this road. And yet, you still are doing it. All that matters is the end result in a game. LeBron hit a big 3 and missed a big 3 with less and a minute left and got bailed out by a teammate grabbing a big Offensive board and another hitting a big 3. Kobe missed a big 3 with less than a minute, got bailed out by a teammate grabbing a big Offensive board and another hitting a big 3.
And ultimately, their lines looked like this:
32/10/11 11/26-1/5-9/12 42%/25%/75%
23/15/2 6/24-0/6-11/15 25%/0%/73%
Now, I've already showed you how both games ended. They both ended in a win. 1 guy scored more, shot better from all spots and assisted better, ending with a triple double. The other shot far worse from all around, including missing all 3's, rebounded well, but only hit 1 field goal in the entire 4th quarter. And, this is how you breakdown the games:
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OH MY FUCKIN GOD....NOT THIS AGAIN. ROFL...HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL UR ASS THAT I ALREADY CREDITED GAME 6 AS A GOOD ONE FOR LEBRON. REMEDIAL MUCH? AS FOR GAME 5 BEIN A GOOD ONE, LMFAO...HE SHOT 1/8 WHEN GUARDED BY FAT MAN DIAW IN THAT GAME, AND THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON THE HEAT LOST. SMFH@ANYONE TRYNA SAY IT WAS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A TERRIBLE GAME FOR LEBRON
--- Quote from: whoisthis on August 07, 2013, 09:22:30 AM ---LeBron's Game 6
--- Quote ---THIS WAS THE GAME WHERE HE WAS TERRIBLE UP UNTIL THE HEADBAND FELL OFF...I ALREADY SAID I'D COUNT IT AS A GOOD GAME, BUT IF RAY ALLEN DONT HIT THAT THREE, IT GOES DOWN AS A BAD GAME (HE COLLECTED A GOOD PORTION OF HIS STATS IN OVERTIME) AND THE SERIES IS OVER WITH LEBRON ONLY DOING GOOD IN 1 OUT OF 6 GAMES! WELL...I CAN TELL U ONE THING, GOD WAS ON HIS SIDE. CUZ ONCE TIM DUNCAN WAS BENCHED+BOSH HAD THE CHANCE TO GRAB THAT REBOUND+RAY ALLEN HIT THAT 3 TO TIE IT=LEBRON WAS GIVEN 1 MORE CHANCE... AND HE DID THE MOST WITH IT. STILL, I'M NOT GUNNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE HE WASNT STRUGGLING MOST OF THE TIME PRIOR TO THE HEADBAND FALLING. THIN LINES DONT EXIST.
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Kobe's Game 7
--- Quote ---THE INFAMOUS "BAD SHOOTING" GAME, WHICH WAS SALVAGED BY AN EXCEPTIONAL 15 REBOUND GAME IN A SERIES WHERE REBOUNDING DECIDED EVERY GAME
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And you want to be taken serious.
It's obvious that you do not want to give LeBron any props. You'll find any season to put him down. There's no point in continuing. I'm going to end this conversation and move forward because your Shucking and Jiving is out of control.
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BUT UR MISSING THE MAIN POINT...I STILL CREDITED IT AS A GOOD GAME, REGARDLESS. ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS HEADED IN THE DIRECTION OF THE WAY HE WAS TYPICALLY PLAYING IN THE SERIES, BUT GOT THE CHANCE TO SALVAGE HIS POOR PLAY. KOBE, ON THE OTHER HAND, WAS PLAYING GENERALLY WELL FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES AND HAD AN OFF SHOOTING NIGHT....IT REALLY IS NOT THE SAME, NO MATTER HOW UR TRYNA TWIST IT. LEBRON WAS DOIN WHAT HE WAS DOIN OUT OF HABBIT, AND THEN SNAPPED OUT OF IT WHEN THE HEADBAND WAS KNOCKED OFF...KOBE WAS BEING HARASSED, DOUBLE AND TRIPLE TEAMED, AND HAD TO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO HELP HIS TEAM WIN. IN THE END, THEY WERE BOTH GOOD GAMES, BUT LEBRON PLAYED 2 DIFFERENT WAYS IN THAT GAME...LIKE A PASSIVE PUSSY WITH NO BALLS THROUGH THREE QUARTERS AND LIKE A MAN ON A MISSION IN THE 4TH AND OT.......THATS THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT HE SALVAGED A BAD GAME. ITS CUZ HE HAS SPLIT PERSONALITIES AND U NEVER KNOW WHICH LEBRON WILL SHOW UP....NOW RUN ALONG, BUDDY.
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