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virtuoso:
Nothing has failed here and I haven't posted in a while because of the bullshit but here is my response to this notion of failure

1) Objective to create a sunni extremist force, to arm them, train them with special forces precision
2) To destroy Syria and with it Russia's influence
3) To pursue the Zionists ambitions for a greater Israel.
4) 2 and 3 cannot necessarily be achieved without a catalyst, therefore allow this force to be driven into Iraq, sit and wait back, ignore the pleas of the Iraqi government
5) Now that ISIS and Al Nusra and these either psychopathic groups have flourished in Iraq sell to the people that whilst they need to be taken on in Iraq, they must attack them simultaneously in Syria.
6) If all out war can't be achieved in Syria then the easiest and next best thing is to destroy all of their infrastructure (NATO destroys ISIS oil refinery)
7) Sell to the people that the FSA is somehow different to these other groups despite the Military Council including the leader of ISIS at the time when McCain met with them, despite the former general of FSA describing his relationship with ISIS as brotherly and despite the fact that they actually fight together!
With the bullshit sold to the people, increase the funding of these groups and then tell the people that Syria has just fired upon it's aircraft and this aggression should lead to a no fly zone....Cue Libya scenario.
7 a) Alternatively use Turkish military as the battering ram to initiate a ground invasion but only "engaging with ISIS you see" yes, the same Turkey that invited these jihadists into Syria with open arms.
8 ) Once these evil scum have taken root in Syria, then all efforts can be made to attack Iran
9) NATO, and all these other supposed alliances are SATANIC SCUM
10) While making these enemies, these globalist satanic psychopaths will also break them, but don't worry though because they know that every time these invasions are made and innocents die, they will create more extremists
11) This invasion is completely illegal and yet the people are spineless, cowardly, dumb fucks who couldn't give a shit because ohhhhh pleeeeeeeease save me from these wicked people
12)It's interesting to note that the masses didn't care when it was Christians, Catholics, Shias, Allawites being savaged murdered but hey throw on a few western journalists and aid workers and suddenly all hands are showing to say yes to war
13) It won't stop at the Middle East
14) This alliance is not just satanic scum but they are committing treason too

LooN3y:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on October 04, 2014, 12:55:38 AM ---Nothing has failed here and I haven't posted in a while because of the bullshit but here is my response to this notion of failure

1) Objective to create a sunni extremist force, to arm them, train them with special forces precision
2) To destroy Syria and with it Russia's influence
3) To pursue the Zionists ambitions for a greater Israel.
4) 2 and 3 cannot necessarily be achieved without a catalyst, therefore allow this force to be driven into Iraq, sit and wait back, ignore the pleas of the Iraqi government
5) Now that ISIS and Al Nusra and these either psychopathic groups have flourished in Iraq sell to the people that whilst they need to be taken on in Iraq, they must attack them simultaneously in Syria.
6) If all out war can't be achieved in Syria then the easiest and next best thing is to destroy all of their infrastructure (NATO destroys ISIS oil refinery)
7) Sell to the people that the FSA is somehow different to these other groups despite the Military Council including the leader of ISIS at the time when McCain met with them, despite the former general of FSA describing his relationship with ISIS as brotherly and despite the fact that they actually fight together!
With the bullshit sold to the people, increase the funding of these groups and then tell the people that Syria has just fired upon it's aircraft and this aggression should lead to a no fly zone....Cue Libya scenario.
7 a) Alternatively use Turkish military as the battering ram to initiate a ground invasion but only "engaging with ISIS you see" yes, the same Turkey that invited these jihadists into Syria with open arms.
8 ) Once these evil scum have taken root in Syria, then all efforts can be made to attack Iran
9) NATO, and all these other supposed alliances are SATANIC SCUM
10) While making these enemies, these globalist satanic psychopaths will also break them, but don't worry though because they know that every time these invasions are made and innocents die, they will create more extremists
11) This invasion is completely illegal and yet the people are spineless, cowardly, dumb fucks who couldn't give a shit because ohhhhh pleeeeeeeease save me from these wicked people
12)It's interesting to note that the masses didn't care when it was Christians, Catholics, Shias, Allawites being savaged murdered but hey throw on a few western journalists and aid workers and suddenly all hands are showing to say yes to war
13) It won't stop at the Middle East
14) This alliance is not just satanic scum but they are committing treason too


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Virt, i agree with you and i dont condone the illegal practices that we commit,


but do you want russia to expand its influence? with a  tyrant in control? or the chinese for that matter, both countries that much more corrupt and imprison people when the exercise freedom of speech?

these countries never honor anything, look at hong kong, they promised they wouldn't touch them for a couple of decades (i believe it was 50), they're already giving them beijing only appointed candidates to vote for.


i dont care how bad the western powers are, because they are no where near as bad as these two countries. We should definitely stop modern day imperialism, but the fact is we cant, if we dont they will.


As for NATO, whats going to stop Putin from rolling on to  eastern europe if there isnt a fear of a western coalition? Russia doesnt have the economy to wage a long war, but who knows desperate animals do desperate things.

I dont know if they'll honor article 5 for the baltic states who knows, but i believe they will for turkey and poland. If no nato, are the nations going to defend themselves individually? When the EU standing army goes in, are the each nations individual armed forces going to join as well?

when will canada and US join in then? having NATO just discourages russia from doing anything of that sort.

virtuoso:
Continuing on with the theme you just raised, so yes, I agree that we have 2 super powers, the one we are referring to Russia has a million plus man army, battle hardened troops, a vast arsenal of weaponry, nuclear weapons, ships, fighter pilots etc and yet, despite you pointing out to the threat of Russia, it is therefore all the more dangerous and frankly insane to continue provoking them.
Every action has been taken against Russia in a bid to make them attack, so far they have not fallen for it, but this renders the white european and jewish puppet masters as the real enemy, the real threat to world stability and it appears that they along with their soulless devil friends in the middle east are trying to push the world into another world war. A war whose consequences will make the previous genocidal world wars look tame by comparson.

Aladin:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on October 07, 2014, 09:28:12 AM ---Continuing on with the theme you just raised, so yes, I agree that we have 2 super powers, the one we are referring to Russia has a million plus man army, battle hardened troops, a vast arsenal of weaponry, nuclear weapons, ships, fighter pilots etc and yet, despite you pointing out to the threat of Russia, it is therefore all the more dangerous and frankly insane to continue provoking them.
Every action has been taken against Russia in a bid to make them attack, so far they have not fallen for it, but this renders the white european and jewish puppet masters as the real enemy, the real threat to world stability and it appears that they along with their soulless devil friends in the middle east are trying to push the world into another world war. A war whose consequences will make the previous genocidal world wars look tame by comparson.

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Very good analyse..

Russia in the last events is cleary (for people who have eyes to see) the more rational/moral party.

Well there are some forum members who want a specific time-frame..
let me give mine opinion....

Russia will have their Nuclear weapons and delivery system modernized by 2020.

That means in the eyes of Nato/US the timer is set.. If they wait too long....then the modernization will make it more difficult even imposible for the First strike after 2019/2020.

So in mine humble opinion The Western alliance will strike before that time. Why and how they gonna do it....I don't know.
Expect nuclear strikes from both sides. Devastation on both sides.

While two dogs fight over a bone.....the third willl steal the bone...
Who is that third dog..... people who read my post know who that is...

May the Almighty have mercy on us all...

LooN3y:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on October 07, 2014, 09:28:12 AM ---Continuing on with the theme you just raised, so yes, I agree that we have 2 super powers, the one we are referring to Russia has a million plus man army, battle hardened troops, a vast arsenal of weaponry, nuclear weapons, ships, fighter pilots etc and yet, despite you pointing out to the threat of Russia, it is therefore all the more dangerous and frankly insane to continue provoking them.
Every action has been taken against Russia in a bid to make them attack, so far they have not fallen for it, but this renders the white european and jewish puppet masters as the real enemy, the real threat to world stability and it appears that they along with their soulless devil friends in the middle east are trying to push the world into another world war. A war whose consequences will make the previous genocidal world wars look tame by comparson.

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yeah but i doubt russians want to die for ukraine too. and if they use all they're military might, they can only sustain it for so long.

they're economy is horrible, they wouldn't sustain any long conflict. Say war ensues, what the hell are they going to pay their soldiers with, not to mention it will drive their economy further down the drain. US finance companies have already cut ties because of the sanctions and western europe will as well.

I dont see how russia will thrive without global trade, and the best example of it is russia's current state right now.

China damn sure wouldn't risk they're economy by being at russia's side, for UKRAINE?  They manufacture pretty much everything in the world., they wouldn't bite the hands that feeds them until they're a full grown pit.

Putin is the desperate irrational one. The western world isnt going to be the 1st use party (unless of a false flag attack), but Putin who cant maintain a long conflict, is more likely.

But i assume Putin will be ousted by then. A long conflict is just going to set back russia more then anything, already it as with these sanctions. They're economy has been crap, they need to fix this.

I get what you're saying but we can just simply let Putin have ukraine. Politics is involved, there is no such thing as "being the better man"

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