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Make your predictions on Syria so I can prove my foresight later...
TraceOneInfinite:
Virtuoso (and the rest), since you know so much about what is happening in the world, I'd like to invite you once more to put your money where your mouth is. Make a concrete prediction with a timeline of what will happen, and I will prove my foresight over the rest of you if we are able to bump this thread at a later date.
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I predict, as I have been predicting since the beginning of the protests in Syria, that America is going to arm the resistance just enough to prolong the war and drain the resources of Syria, Iran (in it's aid to Syria), and Hezbollah.
If America and the Western superpowers stayed out completely, then Assad could suppress the majority of threats to his sovereignty in the country. But with America's help so far, the opposition has had just enough resources to continue their insurgency against Assad but not in any decisive or meaningful way.
Assad is once again regaining control of Syria, so now America will lob some missiles from just outside the country (similar to the way they did in Libya) and effectively destabilize the Assad regime to some degree, but still not enough to truly be a game changer. It will only weaken the Assad regime enough to give the opposition greater hopes and thus the continued draining of resources from both sides.
The larger game is to bleed Assad's resources for some time, there is no rush on America's side. After enough of Assad and Hezbollah's resources have been bleed it is possible that some years down the road the US might occupy or at least have a military base or presence in Syria. Ultimately this will encircle Iran, and further weaken it's position in the region. With Iran playing a weak hand through it's continued degradation by way of sanctions and influence, it will ultimately have to cave to the United States and Israel. At the end of the day, the regions surrounding Israel will be further weakened and Israel further strengthened.
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
America has already funded these rebels, it's the same rebels they funded in Egypt, Libya, etc. Its al-Qaeda. That's what Benghazi was, an arms deal we facilitated that went horribly wrong.
Syria kicked these "rebels" ass, and now the US et al are officially going in to finish the job. May start as early as Friday.
Assad will be overthrown, but only after a drawn out effort and many deaths.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on August 28, 2013, 12:39:07 PM ---America has already funded these rebels, it's the same rebels they funded in Egypt, Libya, etc. Its al-Qaeda. That's what Benghazi was, an arms deal we facilitated that went horribly wrong.
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That's incorrect to simply name any Sunni-Islamic rebels, "Al-Qaeda". Egypt, Libya, and Syria are all separate rebel movements/groups. Some of them may have a simliar agenda, which is to establish Shariah and overthrow leaders they regard as heretics, but that doesn't make them all "Al-Qaeda". Al-Qaeda doesn't even exist anymore and likely hasn't been operating since the U.S. first invaded Afganistan in 2001. Since then it has "Al-Qaeda" has just been used as a catch all term for the "bad-guy" and an excuse for military intervention around the world.
--- Quote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on August 28, 2013, 12:39:07 PM ---
Syria kicked these "rebels" ass, and now the US et al are officially going in to finish the job. May start as early as Friday.
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That's where my prediction differs from yours. America is certainly not going to "finish the job" but rather they are going to prolong the civil war and bleed the resources of the Assad Regime for an indefinite period.
--- Quote from: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on August 28, 2013, 12:39:07 PM ---
Assad will be overthrown, but only after a drawn out effort and many deaths.
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Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and predict exactly when Assad will be overthrown. Because whatever your prediction is my prediction will be beyond that date. The U.S. wants to further drain the resources of Hezbollah and Syria at large for an extended period.
Jack Trippa 3z company ho:
"al-Qaeda" simply refers to mercenaries hired by the U.N., US, Israel etc to lead these uprisings. They are called "rebels", but they are backed by these same entities. Call them what you want. Al Qaeda was formed by the US, these psychopathic "rebels" are as well.
Look at Iraq, Afghanistan etc. The US plan is to draw any conflict out as long as possible. I don't know why you've got a hard on for a specific date, but they will overthrow Assad, it make take weeks/months/years, but it will happen.
virtuoso:
You are utterly naive if you believe that this can't lead to a very rapid regional war and consider for a moment the consequences of that both in terms of lives lost, the reshaping of the maps, the catastrophic effect it will have on the price of oil, thus the every day economic life, whether the situation becomes so horrendous that nuclear weapons will be employed and only then will it hit you how utterly moronic this thread of your's is. Who cares how long it takes for the full effects of this to be felt, after all, what do you expect Iran to do? just sit back and watch as it's ally gets systematically weakened?
Wesley Clark has made it very clear what the intentions of this megalomaniac group of devils is.
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