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Assad: My opposition is 80-90% Al-Qaeda terrorists
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on September 04, 2013, 09:14:01 AM ---The terrorists are these Islamic extremist psychopathic scum
The state sponsors of this terrorism are the west. That you would support this salafist, wahabbi, Muslim brotherhoodin any way would disturb me greatly and as a man of peace that I know you to be and as a libertarian, I don't for a minute contemplate that you support these savages
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Extremely loaded statement. Can't sufficiently respond to that, but I was able to respond to Trippa in my above post.
I don't know where you guys got the idea that I support the revolution against Assad, because I never said such a thing. I've made many posts to the contrary, stating that the revolutions of the Arab spring in places like Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Syria have only made matters worse. I've been consistent in saying as much.
virtuoso:
Infinite, you may feel uncomfortable about denouncing fellow muslims but I have no such issues with denouncing them or anyone engaged in this kind of barbaric, cowardly heinous acts.
Clearly your views and theirs are not synonymous in any way despite your reservations about denouncing them and yes, the arab uprising was contrived, not contrived from the point of real opposition but in so far as enabling and provocateuring.
Despite the dictatorial style of Mubarrack Egypt never got involved in a war, something I find very interesting.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on September 04, 2013, 12:15:03 PM ---Infinite, you may feel uncomfortable about denouncing fellow muslims but I have no such issues with denouncing them or anyone engaged in this kind of barbaric, cowardly heinous acts.
Clearly your views and theirs are not synonymous in any way despite your reservations about denouncing them and yes, the arab uprising was contrived, not contrived from the point of real opposition but in so far as enabling and provocateuring.
Despite the dictatorial style of Mubarrack Egypt never got involved in a war, something I find very interesting.
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That's pretty much on point... My contention was mainly with the use of the term "Al-Qaeada" as a catch-all phrase that makes all Muslim fighters a part of an organization which has been blamed for everything from Kennedy Assassination to the crucifixion of Christ and Global Warming.
...I also think that terms you use like Islamic extremists/terrorists aren't helpful either. And you are not to blame for that. I think it's more of a case of nearly any Muslim that the U.S. doesn't like automatically inherits that label, so then when people like yourself who have very different interests in the matter use the same term, the words and labels can get all convoluted. Num sayin?
virtuoso:
I am not sure what else to label someone who films themselves cutting off someone's head. They are Muslim extremists, in the same way that Christians who support everything Israel does because they are the so called chosen people are christian extremists. Or as Webster Tarpley labels them...death squads. As for terrorism, I am under no illusions, when NATO bombed residential areas in Belgrade they justified it on the grounds of wanting to cause an uprising, that was terrorism too.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on September 04, 2013, 01:53:23 PM ---I am not sure what else to label someone who films themselves cutting off someone's head. They are Muslim extremists, in the same way that Christians who support everything Israel does because they are the so called chosen people are christian extremists. Or as Webster Tarpley labels them...death squads. As for terrorism, I am under no illusions, when NATO bombed residential areas in Belgrade they justified it on the grounds of wanting to cause an uprising, that was terrorism too.
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So what do you think of America using "Al-Qaeada" as a pretext to do whatever it wants, wherever it wants anywhere on the globe? I mean, I'm sure you against it, but what do you think of the role that labeling everything "Al-Qaeada" plays?
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