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Has Miguel Cabrera wrapped up the MVP award already?

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Remedy360:

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--- Quote from: Halu Sination on September 13, 2013, 11:04:02 PM ---Trout is a much more complete player than Miggy and would have been MVP last year and this year if not for the fact that Angels are awful.

Miggy is the best hitter in the league, no question, but there's far more to baseball than just batting.

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miggy plays 3rd base, that's a lot tougher than playing any outfield spot

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You are wrong so much in this thread it hurts.  RBI's are a byproduct of hits.  Trout has more hits, so the fact he has less RBI's is meaningless.  It is a team stat, not an individual stat.  They bat in different positions as well.  If you think that 3rd base is more important defensively than centerfield then you should go choke yourself. 

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hahahahaha

Hack Wilson - real:
the hardest positions to play are shortstop and catcher.  then comes 2nd base, then 3rd.  then centerfield and the other 3 are all equal (maybe 1st is tougher because you see the ball the most).


centerfield used to be a lot tougher when the ballparks were 500 feet deep but now they are only 400-420 ish most places.  the reaction time playing 3rd is a lot tougher than anywhere in the outfield. 

MistaNova:

--- Quote from: Mr. Bones on September 16, 2013, 05:17:55 PM ---RBI's are important...you can't win without knocking runners in, can you?

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Again, RBIs are only important when it comes to evaluating TEAMS AS A WHOLE. You can make a case and say that "This team is good because all of it's players have combined for 1000+ RBIs" or something like that but you CAN'T say "this player is good because he's got 100 RBIs." You will be laughed at and ridiculed by anyone who has a clue about baseball.

And you brought up "worthless" Adam Dunn a while back, let's look at his career stats. He's had several 100 RBI seasons under his belt and has aprox 1,100 RBIs to his name. If RBIs are so important then Adam Dunn should be one of the top 10 players in the MLB.

And no, the three outfield spots are not equal in the least. As centerfielder your reactions are constantly tested as you're in charge of various actions. Such as deciding whether or not you're going to catch the ball yourself or let one of the other fielders get it. Plus in right field you need to have quick reflexes and have the ability to throw the ball as soon as the ball reaches your glove/hand, otherwise base runners in scoring position will always score on you and you will lose your job. Hack, you are underestimating how hard and important being an outfielder is. It's not like they're just standing around waiting for fly balls, they're just as important as infielders.

Ghost Drebin:

--- Quote from: Mr. Bones on September 16, 2013, 06:10:49 PM ---the hardest positions to play are shortstop and catcher.  then comes 2nd base, then 3rd.  then centerfield and the other 3 are all equal (maybe 1st is tougher because you see the ball the most).


centerfield used to be a lot tougher when the ballparks were 500 feet deep but now they are only 400-420 ish most places.  the reaction time playing 3rd is a lot tougher than anywhere in the outfield. 


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You need to make like fat joe and lean back with this argument. The more you try and rationalize your points, the more I realize that you lack anything beyond the basic knowledge of the game. Your original post was good. It's legit to argue about individual players and how they compare to each other. But you are now trying to argue about facts of the game. Just take the L and walk it off.

Hack Wilson - real:
have you ever even played baseball before?  3rd base is a lot tougher to field than any outfield position. 



and back to the point of the thread...Trout isn't even a top 3 candidate because he hasn't played a meaningful game in 3-4 months

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